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Eric
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- Stansbury Park, UT
That is horrible! I wonder what recourse is available? There would be malpractice if what he was doing caused you injury, but I'm not sure if we have any rights against the establishment.
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xjtony
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- Grantsville, Ut
He even went so far as to try and tell me that the reaction I had within 24 hours of the shot had nothing to do with a reaction either and that my doctor was wrong. The only recourse I know of is to report it to VAERS. I reported both the new diagnosis and the doctor specifically for what I felt was trying to cover up a potentially serious side effect
anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
- Location
- Price, Utah
Refusing to report could possibly be an issue with the state medical board. Whoever this doctor is seems to be going against the hypocratic oath that they take when becoming doctors. By not reporting what seems to by an obvious link to the vaccine, he is putting other people at risk. Your reaction is specific to you and how your body responded, but there is information there that could be valuable to those who are trying to put pieces of a puzzle together.
I was in the home of a nurse at Primary Childrens this week. I asked if the kids being sick was as bad as the news is making it sound. He said there really aren't many coming in. There are being hit hard by RSV in children right now.
However, he did say that of the children who have had covid, some return with MAJOR symptoms.. including heart attack type issues
However, he did say that of the children who have had covid, some return with MAJOR symptoms.. including heart attack type issues
- Location
- West Haven, UT
Has the doctor requested a D-dimer test? Some people have reported clotting issues which can be detected with this test
ChestonScout
opinions are like Jeeps..
- Location
- Clinton, Ut
I’ve been considering getting the jab lately. My brother in law is in the ICU in Boise right now. Intubated and not doing well. It’s not looking good. Leaving a wife and 5 kids. He turned 40 the day they moved him in.
the whole family got it. He was the only one that was bad. Head cold for the rest of them. They are all better now.
I think that is absolutely insane your Dr won’t report it for what it is.
How sure are you that it is a small percentage with a reaction to the jab? If your Dr won’t report it, I’m sure there are many many more doing the same thing
I’m back to saying thanks but no thanks. For now anyway
the whole family got it. He was the only one that was bad. Head cold for the rest of them. They are all better now.
I think that is absolutely insane your Dr won’t report it for what it is.
How sure are you that it is a small percentage with a reaction to the jab? If your Dr won’t report it, I’m sure there are many many more doing the same thing
I’m back to saying thanks but no thanks. For now anyway
xjtony
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- Location
- Grantsville, Ut
According to the CDC doctors are not really required to report side effects to the jab. That's why they started the VAERS system to allow that data to come directly from the patients. I would guess that at some point a board reviews all of the submissions to determine if there is a trend or if they are just coincidental. I personally know multiple people who have had similar issues (with varying severity). Since I really only talk to a handful of people on a daily basis that would lead me to speculate that Modernas claim of roughy 1000 people world wide having heart issues is far under reported. Or people I know just have bad luck, which is possible.
xjtony
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- Location
- Grantsville, Ut
This has not come up yet but I'm sure it will at some point.
xjtony
Well-Known Member
- Location
- Grantsville, Ut
My biggest issue is doctor's apparently just wholesale pushing the vaccine without screening patients to make sure it's as safe as possible. For probably 95% of people or more it's totally fine, but there is very little screening going on. A guy at work just got his second Pfizer-BioNtech shot at the health department yesterday. He's healthy and just feels crappy, but at no point was he ever asked about any medications or pre-existing conditions.
My other issue, and has been since the begining, is the politicized witch hunt saying that unvaccinated people are a danger to those who are vaccinated. The opposite is really true. The vaccine clearly makes a difference of the severity of the infection, but has done nothing to stem the spread of the virus. Vaccinated people are a danger to those who are not vaccinated ( I've had confirmed exposures several times in the last 3 months, all from fully vaccinated people). Instead of protecting people who cannot, for any reason, get the vaccine we are attacking them and claiming they are a danger to others. My wife is a good example. She has had serious reactions to vaccines in the past and has a weak immune system from T1D. Her doctor doesn't want her to get the shot because it could be dangerous. The system should be trying to help protect her instead of vilifying her for that choice. We have talked about having to take extra precautions because we won't be vaccinated, but we are in no way a threat to anyone who has the shot (or the shot is not doing what they claim it is).
Pike2350
Registered User
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- Salt Lake City
I completely agree with your sentiment. I don't know of anyone that that thinks those that have compromised immune systems and is recommended by a Dr. NOT to get the vaccine are being selfish or would vilify them for that. I think most people just don't agree with people not getting the vaccine AND continuing to act in a way that has little regard for other people around them. It seems to be the more common type of person to vilify....not that I agree with that either.
I do think there needs to be much more consultation with health professionals prior to getting the shot. Anyone with heart/blood issues should definately do that...and hopefully the Dr.'s are honest, upfront and willing to report the truths, regardless of how they come out. I believe this should all be much more transparent then it has been.
I do wonder if in the future something is found that shows how/why some people have such strong reactions to either the virus or the vaccine. Is there a gene that somehow comes into play? It is just so bizarre to me how both can affect people. With the way the virus has been politicized from the start, I don't think any information will come out for a long time...and even then, it likely will be looked at with very skeptical eyes by the public.
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- West Haven, UT
Neighbor couple came down with COVID a couple weeks ago. She was vaccinated earlier in the year, he never got the shots. After 16 days he is feeling almost 100% (a little cough) but she is still hammered. The had another COVID test this week and both were positive
xjtony
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- Location
- Grantsville, Ut
I watched a video from the White Coat Conference this year. The video has been removed from YouTube and i could only find it on Bitchute so I wont put up a link because some would disregard it simply for that. It was a doctor from the Mayo Clinic currently doing research on the protein spikes the vaccines use and their possible negative effects on the human body. They used both a clinical study administering JUST the protein spikes with nothing else, and also cadaver tissue for the study. He had some fairly interesting things to say.
1. The vaccine manufacturers claim that the protein spikes never leave the injection site. They were able to find them in pretty much every ACE2 receptor in the body, including all of the major organs.
2. The protein spikes were engineered to (in big dummy terms for myself to try to understand) inject the coding for the vaccine antibodies into cells so the cells then learn to make the antibodies. In their study this causes damage to the cells. In our muscles or blood this is no big deal, but in our organs those damaged cells cant be replaced. They are replaced by scar tissue...inflammation. In his opinion this inflammation would likely be permanent because the body cant regenerate things like heart cells. He stated that the Mayo Clinic they had seen a huge increase in things like myocarditis since the vaccines had come into full swing.
3. His opinion was that natural immunity was superior to vaccine immunity. He did have reference material sited, and this has been released from the UK as well. He went as far as to say he thought everyone who gets vaccinated should at minimum have an antibody test performed first, and not be vaccinated if they had a load of natural antibodies. He described what happened to me like he was in the room when it happened and said they see this reaction in people who still have natural antibodies in their system. He cited several cases of confirmed death due to this reaction.
He boiled it down better than I have heard it before..... This is the largest 3rd stage clinical trial in human history, and its being forced upon us. The sample size is everyone and, by and large, these drugs are under a EAU. They are not approved for everyday use like other vaccines that are being used as a precedent.
On a related note did anyone notice the CDC announcement yesterday to NOT try and vaccinate kids under 12? Or the paper submittal to the White House urging them to hold off on boosters. The signees, including members of the CDC, see no clinical benefit to boosters past the 2 shots at this time. They may be needed, but there is not much data indicating that they will be at this time. Moderna still hasn't received FDA approval on the vaccine available now and they are already moving on to a yearly flu/covid vaccine for approval. Doesn't seem quite right for some reason.
xjtony
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- Grantsville, Ut
Also thanks for the well wishes from everyone. As of now I am doing fine other than some chest pain and fatigue. I just want to share what happened so others who may be concerned have a little more information going forward with the choices that they may be required to make.
That's because google's parent company (Alphabet) is a vaccine company.
Robert F Kennedy Jr on that topic:
xjtony
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- Grantsville, Ut
There has been some interest so I'll post the link to the video. In the spirit of transparency I have not fact checked it yet. On the surface it appears to be legit and in line with other videos from the conference. He seems willing to share his material for peer review.
4x4_Welder
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- Location
- Twin Falls, ID
Doctors are sometimes fairly resistant to reporting issues, for whatever reason. One of the chemo drugs I was given made me stop breathing within about five minutes of the infusion starting. I was given an IV dose of Benadryl, and came back around ok. After the first one I did a little research and found out that acute pulmonary toxicity is a know side effect of Taxotere, and about a 1% possiblity. I brought this up with my oncologist, and she just kinda brushed it off. The next infusion, though, I got an IV dose of Benadryl beforehand, and still had a reaction. I was supposed to have one final dose, but that was changed to Doxorubicin, which I'm pretty sure is why I am having chest pains now.
jeepin4x4james
WAAAAA
- Location
- Bluffdale, UT
That’s pretty terrifying.
I’m curious if the J&J causes similar spikes… I don’t imagine it does but I’m no scientist.
When I did a little looking in to mRNA vaccines it’s a little bit reassuring seeing that they’ve been doing research/studies for over 30yrs… that is until you see that there have been hundreds if not thousands of trials, and nothing has been approved… seems strange after all that time and research to have an approval now.
I’m curious if the J&J causes similar spikes… I don’t imagine it does but I’m no scientist.
When I did a little looking in to mRNA vaccines it’s a little bit reassuring seeing that they’ve been doing research/studies for over 30yrs… that is until you see that there have been hundreds if not thousands of trials, and nothing has been approved… seems strange after all that time and research to have an approval now.
- Location
- West Haven, UT
Nothing has resulted in all those years because every trial with animals failed. Its too bad they skipped the animal trials with this version
anderson750
I'm working on it Rose
- Location
- Price, Utah
Even though it is “approved” this is still the clinical trial. You can’t convince me otherwise....... this approval had an immense amount of political pressure behind it.
Not to mention the bait and switch on the approved version. The approved version is hardly available, but the FDA allowed for the earlier version to continue to be used in place of the new one. They are different recipes. Bait and switch.