sixstringsteve
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- UT
Good stories Brian.
Crazy violence
- Thread starter Cherokeester
- Start date
- Location
- West Bountiful, UT
I think that's pretty common, human nature, even. I've seen a handful of instances where someone pulled a gun or a knife and the unarmed person taunted them to use it. I've done it myself. Not very smart - saw one of my friends get murdered that way, in fact - another friend pulled a knife, unarmed friend said "you ain't gonna stab me you p***y" and the guy with the knife put it right through his heart. My friend Johnny was dead-dead-dead, fast-fast-fast. My friend Rob did six years...
But it does seem to be a natural reaction, when someone pulls a weapon and all you really have is your mouth, to go ahead and run your mouth. I think it's a way of escalating the situation and hoping to come out the winner, even though you are the un-armed. If somebody pulls a gun on you, and you tell them to use it or eff off, they either use the weapon on you, or, if they don't - you call them female anatomy for the rest of their life. They pulled a weapon, but they lost the confrontation. I think that is probably what most guys are thinking when they start taunting the weapon holder.
- DAA
sixstringsteve
Well-Known Member
- Location
- UT
if we get movie replay in heaven, I'm watching DAA's entire life. Well... most of it.
- Location
- West Bountiful, UT
I don't believe in an after life, in any form or fashion... But if I'm wrong about that, I'm pretty sure I'll be denied entrance to the nice side 
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- DAA
.- DAA
Defense...? who said anything about defense, its just a game like Knockout but it's called Justified Murder
UNSTUCK
But stuck more often.
I know. I hate it when that happens.
glockman
I hate Jeep trucks
- Location
- Pleasant Grove
I think if you carry a gun, you are forced to be a wuss. You can't go mouthing off to some guy who cut you off in traffic because if he does escalate, you have to back down or go to prison. I like women so prison doesn't sound like my kind of place. Honestly, I don't feel too much of a need to carry when I am alone. I can defend myself well enough and if I lose a fist fight no big deal. The risk of it going any further than that are limited and livable to me. If my wife or kids are with me, the risk of losing and the threat that an attacker poses to them after I lose is Incomprehensible. I almost always have a gun if I have a kid or the wife with me. There is a very small risk of ever needing it but with my shooting background, if anyone harmed my family and I didn't have a gun, I would not be able to live with myself. It would be like not putting my kid in their car seat when it is so easy.
On a side note, the knockout game is an forcible felony. In Utah you can use up to and including lethal force to stop a forcible felony. So even if you aren't the one hit, you can stop the perp with your firearm.
On a side note, the knockout game is an forcible felony. In Utah you can use up to and including lethal force to stop a forcible felony. So even if you aren't the one hit, you can stop the perp with your firearm.
JL Rockies
Binders Fulla Expo
- Location
- Draper
It's called "polar bear hunting". It's been around for a long time and the press has avoided the truth: it's black kids attacking white people.
I grew up in Newark, NJ. I was the only white kid in the neighborhood and I had my head on a swivel due to attacks like this.
I've been shot at, hit with clubs, cut etc. One kid who thought it would be fun the eff with the white boy with four if his friends ended up getting hit so hard he lost hearing in his left ear. Was it worth it? Probably not but I'm sure he's either dead or in prison right now.
Kooler than Mudd.
I grew up in Newark, NJ. I was the only white kid in the neighborhood and I had my head on a swivel due to attacks like this.
I've been shot at, hit with clubs, cut etc. One kid who thought it would be fun the eff with the white boy with four if his friends ended up getting hit so hard he lost hearing in his left ear. Was it worth it? Probably not but I'm sure he's either dead or in prison right now.
Kooler than Mudd.
GEEPAHOLIC
DASJEEP
- Location
- just north of south
People are stupid.... And they all wonder why Treyvon Martin got shot..... I don't under stand how this isn't considered a hate crime......cause lord knows if it were white kids doing this we would have the next civil war on our hands.... If a 15yo kid runs up and thumps you one you can't even hit him back or your the criminal and he's a local hero ....I have no faith in humanity anymore
Sorry rant over..
Sorry rant over..
JL Rockies
Binders Fulla Expo
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- Draper
False:
One victim pulled his gun and shot the kid twice. Kid was quoted (from jail) "I'll never play that game again". Of course, this would go without saying if both shots hit center mass.
Kooler than Mudd.
Spork
Tin Foil Hat Equipped
- Location
- Saratoga Springs, UT
Do you have to ask for ID? He looked 18 to me...
- Location
- Riverton, UT
This is not new as J L said. My uncle Alva who boxed (130 pounds) under the name of "Rube Waddle" in Kansas City, Kansas joined the army during the 1st WW. While being processed in San Francisco he and his friend Payday (120 pounds) would walk the Embarcadaro and see if they could knock out winos with one punch. I asked him why and he said everyone did it and since he and Payday boxed it was good training. Life was much rougher then and they did not have political correctness like we do today. I did some boxing in the Navy and let me tell you it is very difficult to knock someone out with one punch with or without boxing gloves. From experience in Hawaii on a dungaree party in Wahiawa I know this is true.
ZUKEYPR
Registered User
- Location
- 651.78 miles East of the Rubicon
"Wahiawa"? haven't heard of that town in a very long time. Used to lifeguard the beach aways from there.
- Location
- Draper, UT
Sorry Geepaholic
As much as I agree with the gist of your statement, I absolutely abhor the concept of a hate crime.
I disagree on one level because one can be charged with a greater crime based upon what you are thinking.
Sorry, a bit too Orwellian for me.
Mostly I disagree because the severity of the offense is based upon the color of my skin, my nationality, or my sexual preference.
This implies that one person is better than the other and therefor merits stiffer penalties for crimes committed against them. Sorry, can't go for that either.
Not a rant against you, just a rant.
I think most of this is driven by the ever persistent push towards more politically correct behavior and needs to be resisted at every possible chance.
- Location
- Riverton, UT
I would say quite aways from the beach since Wahiawa is in the center of the Island by Scofield Barracks.