dana 60 vs 9"

[Chevycrew]

2 axle options for a buddies project. This is for the rear axle.

This will be a daily driven s10 pickup with 400+ hp.


Dana 60 semi float 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern 61" wide.

or

Ford 9" with 28 spline yukon shafts at 58" wide.



The finished build will be 4.56 gears and e-lockers front and rear.


Opinions?

 

[I Lean]

60, because it won't be 28 spline.

Does Eaton make a 9" E-locker?

 

[Chevycrew]

Good point... I missed that somewhere. No E-locker for the 9".

So the 60 if he really wants the E-locker, or a 9" and an ARB.

 

[RockMonkey]

30>28

Go with the 60.

 

[I Lean]

30>28

Go with the 60.

A 5-lug 60 isn't going to use stock shafts, so most likely it'll end up being 35 spline.

 

[zukking01]

A 5-lug 60 isn't going to use stock shafts, so most likely it'll end up being 35 spline.

Didnt some old fords or dodge come with stock 5lug d60?


Found this on ksl
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9845364&cat=103&lpid=10

 

[Anchor_Mtn]

There were semi-float 60s in almost every popular bolt pattern.

 

[I Lean]

Yup, lookee there. Interesting--I'd like to know specifics on it.

 

[Caleb]

Didnt some old fords or dodge come with stock 5lug d60?


Found this on ksl
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9845364&cat=103&lpid=10

Early 70s semi float, wouldn't that be one of the very undesirable 19 spline 60s?

 

[waynehartwig]

Why 28 spline on the 9"??

IMO I'd go 35 spline on the 9" and use it over a 35 spline D60. Just my opinion...

 

[Caleb]

Why 28 spline on the 9"??

IMO I'd go 35 spline on the 9" and use it over a 35 spline D60. Just my opinion...

35 spline 9" would either require a new nodular third or the thin hybrid bearings. If he's not planning on putting much money in to the axle, then that wouldn't make sense. Also, why the super low pinion over the 60?

 

[waynehartwig]

Early 70s semi float, wouldn't that be one of the very undesirable 19 spline 60s?

I *think* Dodge was the only one to use 23 splines in the the early 70's? Late 60's yes. Ford/GM, even in late 60's, was a 30/35 spline SF unit.

 

[waynehartwig]

35 spline 9" would either require a new nodular third or the thin hybrid bearings. If he's not planning on putting much money in to the axle, then that wouldn't make sense. Also, why the super low pinion over the 60?

Because it's a daily driver with high HP. IMO the 9" is a better axle for a daily driver with high HP than a D60. And to build a drop out with 3.25 bearings isn't that expensive. ~$1300 full race prep and Detroit (35 spline). That's a nodular race drop out with Daytona support, of course nodular on both.

EDIT:
It also won't have c clips!

EDIT EDIT:
I also don't see where he says he's on a budget?

 

[Caleb]

Because it's a daily driver with high HP. IMO the 9" is a better axle for a daily driver with high HP than a D60. And to build a drop out with 3.25 bearings isn't that expensive. ~$1300 full race prep and Detroit (35 spline). That's a nodular race drop out with Daytona support, of course nodular on both.

EDIT:
It also won't have c clips!

EDIT EDIT:
I also don't see where he says he's on a budget?

I assumed he was on a budget since he's been planning on keeping the stock 9" shaft. I agree with you that a nodular drop out would be ideal, but I don't think he would be considering a 28 spline shaft if he wasn't on a budget. I may be wrong.

 

[waynehartwig]

I assumed he was on a budget since he's been planning on keeping the stock 9" shaft. I agree with you that a nodular drop out would be ideal, but I don't think he would be considering a 28 spline shaft if he wasn't on a budget. I may be wrong.

I could be wrong too... I took it that he basically has both sitting there or easily attainable.

The 9" is just hard to beat in a driver. I doubt I'll ever run one on the rocks, even though I like them so much.

But yeah, 28 spline, I wouldn't even give it a second thought. I've got guys busting 28 spline Yukon shafts with stock 302's (Ranger's, with no weight in the back), let alone 400+ horse.... 400+ deserves 35 spline, 30 at bare minimum.

EDIT:
That's another thing too.. .If he is planning on changing carriers (ie ARB), then change shafts, too. Shafts are cheap.

 

[Chevycrew]

Didnt some old fords or dodge come with stock 5lug d60?


Found this on ksl
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=9845364&cat=103&lpid=10

Put a deposit on it tonight. That is a cool axle. 30 spline, 3.54 gears, power lock, date stamp on r & p is 67, power lock is 68.

It will be getting 4.56 gears, an E-locker, also disc brakes.

 

[SUPERFLY]

Call me crazy, but if you are spending the cash to build a 400+ hp motor shouldn't you budget in some extra money for the rear end to handle it? I'm into saving money just as much as the next guy but in building my "hope to be" 350-400 hp buggy you better believe I plan to put some half way decent parts in the rear end

 

[Chevycrew]

So your saying the 60 with 4.56's and the e-locker are less than halfway decent?

 

[zukking01]

So your saying the 60 with 4.56's and the e-locker are less than halfway decent?

I think what they are saying is that axle on ksl may have the low spline count shafts and is prone to breaking the shafts. I dont know about the axle exept that I run across them every so often browsing ksl.

 

[Chevycrew]

Maybe my post was missed where I said the axle on ksl is 30 spline.