EJS Rumor or Fact?

[Webby]

Any thoughts during a non-safari time. Are they going to be more likely or less likely to pull you over?

I really depends on their mood. If you find a really crabby cop they give you a ticket for anything. Your hair is not parted down the middle; here's a ticket. Or if you find the good ol' boy that's having a great day most likely he'll just talk to you (if he bothers to pull you over) and tell you that your not suppose to drive on the roads. There's no way of telling. I don't have mud flaps and what finder flares I have are not wide enough for my tires. I've been driving around Ogden for 4 years that way, no problems. I go to Layton and I'm not there 20 minutes and getting pulled over.

Legally your not suppose to drive on the highway (moab area is not exempt from them) without all the proper safety equipment, so if a cop wants to be picky he can. Nothing you can do or predict.

 

[Houndoc]

I understand the issue with buggies and non-street registered vehicles- creates big problems that moab needs to address so they can get to and from the trails (I will e-mail the concern to one of their economic developement guys I know), but might I ask, hopefully without some of you wanting to send out a lynch mob, why is it so difficult to make your 'daily drivers' legal?????

If you really feel the laws regarding flaps, fender flares, lifts etc are wrong headed, contact your legislator and push for changes. Just because we like to drive off-road does not mean we are above state law.

 

[Hickey]

Just because we like to drive off-road does not mean we are above state law.

Exactly right.

 

[fonzisjeepn]

they should hold jeep safari in Idaho they don't have saftey inspections and stuff like that HA HA HA HA HA. just kidding
I love moab and I hope that people will be able to drive there jeeps(buggies) on the roads. I hope if your doing burn out on main and drinking a bud light on main, or just plain being a jackas$ you do get pulled over, but a lot of money will be lost if they stop the buggies from driving on the road.
I will agree that we all know that 98% of all lifted jeeps are illegal to drive on the roads but we push our luck so when I get pulled over I just take my ticket pay it or fix it (like wiretie mud flaps on and take them off when I get home till the next time) IT'S JUST STUPID TO STOP THE BUGGIES THEY ARE THE GUYS WITH ALL THE MONEY !!

 

[MattL]

If you really feel the laws regarding flaps, fender flares, lifts etc are wrong headed, contact your legislator and push for changes. Just because we like to drive off-road does not mean we are above state law.

I couldnt have said it better.

 

[N-Smooth]

lets all get together and cry about not being able to drive our illegal rigs on the road...
its the attitude that we deserve to do what we want that often cripples us.
am i right???
besides, thats why i bought a badass truck: to tow my junk!

 

[Caleb]

Can you imagine the hold up if everyone trailered their rigs to trail heads? I really could care less other than the fact that my mud flaps are 2 inches too short, my flares are 2 inches too short, my lift is 2 inches too big, etc ,etc ,etc. I fear for the power hungry cops that are out to get everyone. This is supoosed to be a time for fun. I'm very safe I just think that it will be impossible for them to manage anyways. They probably won't bother with me. I just dislike finicky things, they should worry about more important matters. I need to russle up one of those little cop stickers for my rear window.

thats totally your choice to build yor rig like that, it was my choice to build a buggy, I weighed ALL the things (including having to traielr to the trails) in my descision. Its also your choice to go down to EJS, which as you know is the most crowded time of the year. Now its time to pay for your choices and reap the consequences (having to live in crowded parking lots, etc)

 

[JIM]

I'am just a old fart with a nice jeep. I belong to RR$H club and have done for 14 years. Every year the club has a safety meeting with the police from both counties and stuff like this is brought up. It is for peoples safety that they have to do this. and as for myself if somebody run into me with a unsafe or unregistered vehicle on main street i hope there not hurt to bad to run.

 

[chans]

I don't see why someone with a buggy would want to risk driving on the street. If you hit someones vehicle and seriously hurt them with no insurance you would have to front all the expenses to fix there vehicle and pay for the hospital bills.

 

[Cory]

IT'S JUST STUPID TO STOP THE BUGGIES THEY ARE THE GUYS WITH ALL THE MONEY !!

I don't buy that idea. There is plenty of other money in Moab. Besides, money really isn't the ultimate issue. From what I can gather, many residents in Moab are so sick of all the crap the EJS brings, that they don't care if they miss out on some $$$, if it means a more gentile town.

This happened in Spring Break towns in Florida, the towns used to roll out the carpet for spring breakers, just to make a quick buck, but many of the towns are cracking down so hard, that spring breakers don't want to come, and those cities are happy that the spring breakers are going somewhere else. The money just isn't worth the hassle.

Don't think it can happen in Moab? I'd think again. Every time I hear that Moab won't cancel EJS because of the Money, I just laugh inside.

 

[Cody]

Good, I hope they do give out tickets. If you have a buggy or a rediculous vehicle that isn't street legal, then don't drive it on the street. Did I miss the section about how these laws are invalid during EJS?

I have ZERO, err, less than that, compassion for the 'we can't park 30 tow rigs in the parking lot' factor. There is more than enough room for registered EJS participants to park, if you want to come down and run the trails unregistered, come a different week if you're going to ***** and moan about parking. It really is that simple.

It's about as rediculous as going to a sold out concert and complaining about crowds and parking. If you don't like, don't go. Otherwise, stop yer bitchin.

Cody

 

[fattodog]

Be atch!!!

Dat's how we doo it up in the OC......

ogden city....

fo shizzle!

WORD! Money! from da Wes side!! (of Roy) KENNETH !! aka Pimp-Dog Ski-lo

 

[fonzisjeepn]

I remember when jeep safari was fun now everybody b****** about it. Let all get along have some good safe fun, and do some wheeling how does that sound. I fw we are not careful and respectful of the people and land of moab we might lose more wheeling then we all ready have.

 

[Brad]

I heard through the grapevine from a credible source that during the week of the safari there is a sort of "anti buggy/ questionable street legal" police force being brought in from outside Moab to enforce the street legallity of the vehicles and keep them off the city streets and highways. Is this true or rumor? Any info would be helpful.

Jay

It's true, UHP will have an increased presence in Moab this year, as well as the Moab police dept hiring additional reserves to work traffic.

And I, for one, applaud the effort, EJS is an absolute joke lately and the law should not keep looking the other way.

Edit: My source is a UHP officer in Summit Co. Asked him about it at lunch the other day.

 

[Webby]

And I, for one, applaud the effort, EJS is an absolute joke lately and the law should not keep looking the other way.

I agree with you here, a lot has changed over the years. EJS has become like Daytona's Spring Break. A mad house. Personally I don't care about the buggies on the road as long was they drive safe. I don't care if there are lots of people on trials as long as they don't throw their garbage on the ground and stay on the trail. If people would just do those two things there would be no problems at EJS or any other time

 

[troutbum]

funny, when I read the pirate thread I thought it was funny how people acted like they did not know the consequences of building a trailer only rig.

If it ain't registered, who's fault is that?

 

[Rick B]

I highly doubt it. Unless you are being a dumbass and doing really stupid things in town they shouldn't bother you. This event is one of the biggest money makers for the city, they don't want to piss off the people that bring in the money.

What an outrageously self centered attitude. EJS probably costs us more than it brings in. Believe me, we don't care about your money nearly as much as you think we do. There are other events here nearly every week all through the spring, summer, & fall months that cost the community far less to host and disrupt the community very little if at all, and they bring in as much money as EJS.

I don't know how they expect you to do trails like the spike or kane creek or pritchett canyon that start in one place and end in another without driving your rig on the roads? I agree with the idea of making a route for the trail rigs. I use to take the old highway in to town after running the spike or something, but last time I was down they had it closed off, so now what? It is definitely not practical for us to trailer everywhere when our trailer is a toy hauler type. It would mean picking up camp daily and leaving a 40' enclosed trailer at the trailhead!

Any thoughts during a non-safari time. Are they going to be more likely or less likely to pull you over?

This is very simple. We expect you to obey the law and not disrupt our community. You chose to built a non street legal vehicle, it's your problem on how to deal with it. No one ever promised that you would have a place to use it. The same goes for your trailer, you chose it. No one ever promised that you could use it or that there would be a place for you to park it.

You are just as likely to get pulled over in an illegal vehicle regardless of when you are using it here. In fact we just had a big debate in our county government concerning this & it appears that the majority of people here do not want to compromise our safety & sanity by allowing OHV's on our streets & highways. So you are probably more likely than ever before to be stopped & have your illegal vehicle impounded.

I heard through the grapevine from a credible source that during the week of the safari there is a sort of "anti buggy/ questionable street legal" police force being brought in from outside Moab to enforce the street legallity of the vehicles and keep them off the city streets and highways. Is this true or rumor? Any info would be helpful.

Well your source is of questionable credibility IMO. Every year the community foots the bill to bring in additional police because of EJS. This has been happening for many years. It's a budget item in the county sheriff's yearly budget to lease the UHP helicopter for 10 days or so during this event and to bring in additional law enforcement personnel. UHP also brings additional personnel into the area during this time, as well as the BLM. All of them are here to enforce the laws of the state & community.

thats totally your choice to build yor rig like that, it was my choice to build a buggy, I weighed ALL the things (including having to traielr to the trails) in my descision. Its also your choice to go down to EJS, which as you know is the most crowded time of the year. Now its time to pay for your choices and reap the consequences (having to live in crowded parking lots, etc)

That's the most intelligent thing anyone said in this thread.

 

[Klif01]

That's the most intelligent thing anyone said in this thread.

What about my statement?


So you gonna be there this next week again? I enjoyed being on the trail with you a couple weeks after thanksgiving, hope to meet you again!

Tim

 

[utahxjer]

**** the police!!!!!

sweet dude...

I don't see why someone with a buggy would want to risk driving on the street. If you hit someones vehicle and seriously hurt them with no insurance you would have to front all the expenses to fix there vehicle and pay for the hospital bills.

Exactly!!!

Seems like 99.9% of people on here WITH buggies feel this way, so that is good

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...If you really feel the laws regarding flaps, fender flares, lifts etc are wrong headed, contact your legislator and push for changes. Just because we like to drive off-road does not mean we are above state law.

Agreed...

The U4WDA did ALOT of pushing to get the new (FAR more leniant) lift law into effect, the prior law only allowed 2.5" on a CJ5 for example... at least now the lift is legit...

If you have a gripe take it to the politicans... You elected them...