Gas prices
- Thread starter Greg
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reddevil
'93 Cherokee
- Location
- Springville
I've been going to Maverik for years and have never had any issues with their gas or diesel.
I guess we don't have high performance motors
My brother would always say when he filled up at Cheveron his Honda would peel out around corners, must be the techron
WayneXJ
grocery getter driver
- Location
- So. Jordan
I guess we don't have high performance motors
My brother would always say when he filled up at Cheveron his Honda would peel out around corners, must be the techron
LoL
TimB
Homesick
- Location
- Weatherford, Tx
I work in the business - gas comes into the pipeline system from all the refineries. They have to meet certain quality standards by government standards. Once it's in the line nobody tracks who's gas is who's. When it gets to a terminal, it goes into a big tank and gets mixed with everybody elses gas. All the trucks load from that tank, through the same rack. The only difference happens when the truck is loaded - each company has a top secret blend of additives they have injected at the time the gas is loaded. The additives are a minute amount, maybe 1% of the load at the most.
That's how it works in the midwest and knowing the industry I doubt it's different anywhere else. When you drive by a refinery do the tanks have labels for each company? No, all the gas comes from one tank or bank of tanks. The gas is certified good by testing of the storage tank, then loaded into the trucks - all the same stuff except for the additives. Now after it's loaded into the trucks there is really no control of quality from that point, other than the driver making sure he puts the right stuff in the right tank. I know of no stations that check gas quality or have the ability to test quality.
In the winter, butane is commonly blended with gas to raise the vapor pressure - up to a point specified by the government. They cannot blend as much butane in the summer because of the temperatures - so if you fill your rig in the winter and dont take it out until spring.... you could have a few minor issues.
I see this with propane too - I manage some facilities that load propane into trucks. We are the only source in several locations and all of the companies come get it from us - all the same identical stuff. But a couple of retailers are always telling thier customers they have better stuff - that is why thier price is higher. They all get it here... it's the same stuff, not even a difference in additives for propane.
That's how it works in the midwest and knowing the industry I doubt it's different anywhere else. When you drive by a refinery do the tanks have labels for each company? No, all the gas comes from one tank or bank of tanks. The gas is certified good by testing of the storage tank, then loaded into the trucks - all the same stuff except for the additives. Now after it's loaded into the trucks there is really no control of quality from that point, other than the driver making sure he puts the right stuff in the right tank. I know of no stations that check gas quality or have the ability to test quality.
In the winter, butane is commonly blended with gas to raise the vapor pressure - up to a point specified by the government. They cannot blend as much butane in the summer because of the temperatures - so if you fill your rig in the winter and dont take it out until spring.... you could have a few minor issues.
I see this with propane too - I manage some facilities that load propane into trucks. We are the only source in several locations and all of the companies come get it from us - all the same identical stuff. But a couple of retailers are always telling thier customers they have better stuff - that is why thier price is higher. They all get it here... it's the same stuff, not even a difference in additives for propane.
Our gas doesn't ride a pipeline, it goes from the refinery to the truck to the tank in the ground. And yes the refineries are labeled.
TimB
Homesick
- Location
- Weatherford, Tx
By the way - av gas is different. It does have to be tested a lot more. That's because a little water could be deadly - you can't just pull over if the engine sputters.
Something else to keep in mind - there are really only 2 or 3 grades of gasoline - any more would require more tanks to keep them seperate. Say you pull up to a station that sells 85, 86,87,88, and 90 octane gas. What they really sell is 86,86,88,88, and 90. It can be better than it says but not worse. Walk out and count the storage tank lids in the drive.... see if they have a seperate tank for each.
Something else to keep in mind - there are really only 2 or 3 grades of gasoline - any more would require more tanks to keep them seperate. Say you pull up to a station that sells 85, 86,87,88, and 90 octane gas. What they really sell is 86,86,88,88, and 90. It can be better than it says but not worse. Walk out and count the storage tank lids in the drive.... see if they have a seperate tank for each.
Generally they have two 85 and 91, doesn't take a math whiz to figure out how to blend and get the other grades.
TimB
Homesick
- Location
- Weatherford, Tx
Think what you like - I was a measurement specialist for a large company that makes/sells gasoline even in your area.
I personally like Texaco and will buy from them as long as the price is competitive. My dad is a die-hard Phillips fan, but I've always thought they were not so good. I've personally watched a Phillips truck pull out of a loading rack and a Texaco pull in the same stall - and fill from the same tank. I think it must be how clean the store is and how hot the babe in the commercial is.
TimB
Homesick
- Location
- Weatherford, Tx
What is the basis for your superior knowledge of the gasoline business?
RockMonkey
Suddenly Enthusiastic
Think what you like - I was a measurement specialist for a large company that makes/sells gasoline even in your area.
I personally like Texaco and will buy from them as long as the price is competitive. My dad is a die-hard Phillips fan, but I've always thought they were not so good. I've personally watched a Phillips truck pull out of a loading rack and a Texaco pull in the same stall - and fill from the same tank. I think it must be how clean the store is and how hot the babe in the commercial is.
FIGHT!!!
FIGHT!!!
I don't need to fight, I know I'm right, I know I won't change his mind and I know the rest of you can read the pump.
- Location
- Bountiful, land of rocks
I just saw diesel for $2.72 in American Fork
Sheesh........one state congressional investigation and one day later.......VERY interesting.
GOAT
Back from the beyond
- Location
- Roanoke, VA
chadr
Active Member
- Location
- Hurricane, Utah
I filled up my diesel here just off of the Hurricane Exit at the Shell station for $2.69 on Saturday and noticed it dropped again on Tuesday to $2.65.
Flying J was still $2.95 on Tuesday when I went past it.
Flying J was still $2.95 on Tuesday when I went past it.
RockMonkey
Suddenly Enthusiastic
Diesel cheaper than gas now? I couldn't find regular unleaded for less than 2.71 this morning.
carsmell
Registered User
- Location
- smithfield
Seen on the news the other night that stations are only paying $2.06 a gallon which means stations are trying to keep prices up. Which irritates me I guess its ok one more person screwing me,whats new.Wish there was something we as a people could do about it
Nate R
It's derby season!
- Location
- West Jordan, UT
I saw Diesel for $2.93 at that Sinclair truck stop by Rocky Mountain Raceway on the 201 freeway today
Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
- Location
- far enough away
I paid 1.99 for 87 here today. That was in... Berea, OH, outside Cleveland. Most places are about 2.05.
doesn't UT have it's own freakin' refineries? Shouldn't gas be cheaper?
doesn't UT have it's own freakin' refineries? Shouldn't gas be cheaper?