Gawynz Manche Thread
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Thanks, hopefully in the future I don't regret it. It's tough to not keep growing the scope, but I keep going back to my original build plan of a daily driver/33s/mild wheeling rig and I think this axle will fit the bill. I have my buggy to do buggy stuff, this just needs to be a fun, relatively reliable, relatively low cost, dd. That said, I have fallen to scope growth on this d30 a bit maybe with the bracing (though all scrap), WJ knuckle/brake swap, booster swap, and I plan to do GM 1ton TRE crossover steering (parts on the way) but I think these things will add a level of confidence in the vehicle, and if I'm being honest it's just fun ha.
kmboren
Recovering XJ owner anonymous
- Location
- Southern Utah
That's been the plan for my YJ. Although ORIs are probably stupid on a dana 30 but hey why not. Do solid 7-8 rated trails all day. Buggy will be for hard stuff.
Well it's off jack stands and under it's own weight, I threw the axle under to figure out drag link lengths. Cool seeing it at ride height, I'm pretty happy with where it's sitting, but there are a few issues/decisions to make (opinions always welcome).
The biggest issue I have is clearance to the ID of 15" wheels; because I'm trying to do tie rod over knuckle, the tie rod ends hit the wheel at about 1/2 full steer, I'm also pretty confident there will be clearance issues with the larger WJ calipers, so options:
The biggest issue I have is clearance to the ID of 15" wheels; because I'm trying to do tie rod over knuckle, the tie rod ends hit the wheel at about 1/2 full steer, I'm also pretty confident there will be clearance issues with the larger WJ calipers, so options:
- Move tie rod under knuckle, grind on calipers where needed, and make my KSL wheel/tire package work (maintain 15"/33")
- Sell my KSL wheel/tire package and do a 17"/33" combo. I really like the look of 33's on this rig and I like the sidewall to wheel ratio that 15s give, I'm not sure I like the idea of 17"/33" as much but I don't think it'd look bad.
- Sell my KSL wheel/tire package and this is where scope creep comes in ha... When I chose 4.56 gears I always thought that gave me some head room to go 35s in the future if I wanted, so I could do a 17"/35" combo w/ a bit more trimming (which I don't mind, might as well do it now). This option gives plenty of clearance and thins the sidewall a little less.
17’s 100%
Also you should really connect the LCA plates to the axle tube, pictured in red. Connecting them together doesn’t strengthen them enough to keep them from tweaking and ripping off- connecting them to the axle tube solves this.
Lastly, I’ve had to cut this portion of the shock mount on every short arm Jeep I ever worked on. They hit at full droop.
Also you should really connect the LCA plates to the axle tube, pictured in red. Connecting them together doesn’t strengthen them enough to keep them from tweaking and ripping off- connecting them to the axle tube solves this.
Lastly, I’ve had to cut this portion of the shock mount on every short arm Jeep I ever worked on. They hit at full droop.
Thanks for the input, I agree, 17's make the most sense at this point.
@xj_nate I get where your coming from on the LCA to axle, I started doing it that way and then figured it'd just be another spot where dirt/mud gets packed in so recognizing that it wasn't as good I left a gap to clean it out, easy enough to connect it though. Also, I intend to cut the spring perch as you indicated, I noticed contact there as I drooped it to get the springs in as well as on the upper control arms, so there is a bit of trimming to do.
So @crosbike's comment got me thinking... I really don't want to buy new wheels, and I can't find much of anything on KSL for 4.5x5x17. There are tons of new, clean, cheap, 5x5x17 or 18 jeep takeoffs that I think would look cool on the older truck. 5x4.5 to 5x5 adapters would widen by about 1.25" per side, but depending on backspacing of the takeoffs maybe I could correct for some of that? I know daily driving spacers is a widely debated topic on the interwebs, pretty much you can find any answer you want.
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@xj_nate I get where your coming from on the LCA to axle, I started doing it that way and then figured it'd just be another spot where dirt/mud gets packed in so recognizing that it wasn't as good I left a gap to clean it out, easy enough to connect it though. Also, I intend to cut the spring perch as you indicated, I noticed contact there as I drooped it to get the springs in as well as on the upper control arms, so there is a bit of trimming to do.
So @crosbike's comment got me thinking... I really don't want to buy new wheels, and I can't find much of anything on KSL for 4.5x5x17. There are tons of new, clean, cheap, 5x5x17 or 18 jeep takeoffs that I think would look cool on the older truck. 5x4.5 to 5x5 adapters would widen by about 1.25" per side, but depending on backspacing of the takeoffs maybe I could correct for some of that? I know daily driving spacers is a widely debated topic on the interwebs, pretty much you can find any answer you want.
example:
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
JK and JL wheels look awesome on Manchees.
ID Bronco
Registered User
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- Idaho Falls, ID
I could help out with the Idaho Falls wheels if you go that route.
I really appreciate the offer, thank you. If I decide to go that route I'll be sure and let you know.
I'm going to send you a PM w/ my number if you don't mind sharing pictures. Thanks.
So today I got a really good deal on a wheel/tire package off a 2021 Gladiator. Owner said they had less than 50 miles when pulled. 285/70R17 which should be slightly smaller diameter than the 33x10.5xR15s that I currently have installed but they actually measure slightly larger. Going to run 1.5" wheel adapters in the rear and 1.25" in the front to account for offset/pattern and some of the axle width difference. I like the look of these new wheels a lot more than the original set i picked up, I think it'll look cool on the old truck.
Little more blingy ha.
Shouldn't be, but these tires are a tad bigger.
With 1.25" adapters in the front each wheel moves inboard about 1 inch from where they were with the old wheels. I don't have the rotors on so they will be a bit more outboard than this. I'm happy with it. I'm a little bummed I already wasted time drilling my new rotors to 5x4.5 ha.
Plenty of clearance now.
Shouldn't be, but these tires are a tad bigger.
With 1.25" adapters in the front each wheel moves inboard about 1 inch from where they were with the old wheels. I don't have the rotors on so they will be a bit more outboard than this. I'm happy with it. I'm a little bummed I already wasted time drilling my new rotors to 5x4.5 ha.
Plenty of clearance now.
kmboren
Recovering XJ owner anonymous
- Location
- Southern Utah
Love those Rubicon wheels.
Haha I'm an idiot, typing faster than I was thinking, thanks for correcting.