Bobzilla
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Ground Zero Mosque, how do you feel?
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Hang on, Barney is totally evil.
Are you a closet dinosaur-lover? Why do you hate America?
Are you a closet dinosaur-lover? Why do you hate America?
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Where is my popcorn eating emoticon?
Bobzilla
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"Slightly paranoid"? specifically what are you talking about being paranoid of?
Bobzilla
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Paranoid about what?
roverrocks
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1.82 billion people are not hate filled but their insidious controlling "religion" is. The Catholic Church and the Inquisition 500 years ago was frightening in it's violence towards nonbelievers. The LDS religion went thru the same type of violent cycle as the Catholic Church did. Most organized religions do so at some point. The Hebrews exterminated everything is their path thousands of years ago to gain control their Holy Land. Nazism and Communism were and are violent quasi religions that seem political but really religious in nature. The Nazis and their ideology/religion had to be literally be exterminated to stop them in the most violent war in history. It is the nature of all strong religious movements to preach We are the Chosen of God and all of you unbelievers need to convert or die. Islam is no different. Put your heads in the sand about Islam and that's where it will still be when it is lopped off.
Wow. Just wow.
Would pointing out the irony in your hatred for a group of people because of what you believe is their hatred towards others be useless? Hate is what infects people and leads to genocide and religious violence. Not religion, not Barney, hate. Hate is a human construct, not a religious construct. Perpetuating this kind of hate is what will continue to drive extremists to act out.
I think the Japanese should put a community center next to Pearl Harbor. That's cool right? But not if it's for Islamic Japanese. In that case, uncool.
Would pointing out the irony in your hatred for a group of people because of what you believe is their hatred towards others be useless? Hate is what infects people and leads to genocide and religious violence. Not religion, not Barney, hate. Hate is a human construct, not a religious construct. Perpetuating this kind of hate is what will continue to drive extremists to act out.
I think the Japanese should put a community center next to Pearl Harbor. That's cool right? But not if it's for Islamic Japanese. In that case, uncool.
roverrocks
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I don't hate anybody except the vicious, power-seeking, controlling old men throughout history who readily send out their naive, brainwashed young men/women to achieve their own evil/warped viewpoints and aims of conquest. These include, kings, popes, imams, fuhrers, presidents, dictators, white supremacists, pharohs, slavers etc, etc, etc. This is not a matter of hate but a matter of disturbing reality that permeates human history like a plague. This is what Islam is doing. Just another in a long line of antiFreedom religions and antiFreedom political systems. No mosque at Ground Zero!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brett
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Bobzilla
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Well said, the point is we all need to be well informed on what is happening in our country America, a mosque or religious center or whatever they want to call it? in my opinion is to show the world Islamic superiority over the west & America.
That is what I believe, it is not paranoia, but years of research & knowledge based facts on how Islamic sharia law works, and how we all should make it our business to understand sharia law to understand what they muslims like Imam Rauf want to do in our country.
Your statements about paranoia shows the ignorance in this subject, I do not claim to be an expert, but on the other hand I know some facts in regard to sharia law, believe it, or we can continue avoiding the facts.
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On this line of thinking, that would be stating that the Catholic church, the LDS church, Hindu's, Buddhist's, etc are doing the same and showing the world they're superior as well by building temples, churches, whatever you'd like to call it in countries all over the planet.
Okay, I'll bite. What research have you done on this subject? If you have any, post it up, I'll read it.
My statement about paranoia convey's nothing other than the fact that you yourself claimed that a reglious group, specifically Muslims, are trying to take over our goverment and impose their own religion on the entire country. Probably quite hard to do when Muslims make up less than 1% of the United States population, but what do I know?
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roverrocks
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Every tidal wave eventually crosses an ocean no matter how far away it is. A person naively does not know or think it's coming until it breaks on your shore with destructive force. That's why we have oceanic beacons to warn us of hidden dangers in a supposedly calm, benign sea. The WTC attacks were such a beacon for our supposedly invincible, ocean protected country as was Dec. 7, 1941. When Europe goes and it will in the not too distant future if you study the dramatic shifting population demographics, we are next if we continue to put our arrogant, could-not-happen-here heads in the sand. You have to draw lines in the sand you do not want the bullies to cross or try to cross. No mosque!!!! at Ground Zero or anywhere near it.
Bobzilla
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For starters, did you read the article wrtten by Nonie Darwish, whom is a muslim convert?
You know my job of 15 years took me to Canada for many years, from 1991 until 2005 or so, in that time I learned some about muslims and how over that time period in Montreal, Quebeque on the eastern side of Canada. The muslims had grown enough in population that they at that time were beginning to achieve some political power.
I also while spending weeks every year for my company Bombardier, I learned that they even had channels on cable tv in Montreal & Quebeque that were muslim sponsered, and they would actually show muslim men how to beat muslim women, yes in Canada they had thier own channels showing how to muslim men how to beat thier women.
I guess that is when I became as you say paranoid, because I learned in Canada aside from tv and hearing on the news how the muslims were slowly gaining momentum & some power within Canada, my friends in Canada were also worried but they are tolerant society.
There was 1 instance where a prominant muslim family, the father murdered his daughter on Canadian soil & the Canadian Goverment, prosecutor couldn't convict because of something to do with muslims being exempt from Canadian law on property owned by muslims practicing sharia law on thier property.
So I have experienced and seen what it is like in eastern Canada, there seems to be a large number of muslims and they also are moving to get political power in Canada, so they can practice sharia law.
Whatever the number is 1% or whatever is not the point, for the future of this country and our people I think it is wise to know what is going on in the USA, that's all we should all be informed.
I'd like to see links from reputable sources on these stories. I'll bet Brett's supply of pachouli oil there is something missing from that last one.
As for the actual thread title, I'll agree it's not a good idea to throw that near ground zero. Why? Most Americans are so ignorant on the Muslim religion, I could see someone burning it down within the first year it's there.
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I don't care that much if they build it. If I were maiking the choice from thier viewpoint I would put it somewhere else. Seems like they might step back and say, "hey we should build elsewhere to avoid what this might look like". If they are building it in good taste(from thier eyes), then what can you do. Most muslims are not hate filled and not not crazy want to kill you extremists. Most of the muslims I know are good people.
This link http://daryllang.com/blog/4421 shows some other stuff about the same distance from this supposed hallowed ground called "ground zero". It is no secret how I feel about 9/11. If a super rich muslim could buy "ground zero" and build the world's largest mosque on it I couldn't care less.
Hallowed ground...my a$$.
Hallowed ground...my a$$.
When I went to ground zero a year or so after the attack it sure felt hallowed to me. I didn't even notice the other stuff around it. Maybe I am a sucker or too sentimental, but it was a very peaceful awe inspiring place to me. Maybe it has changed since then.