Is this the truth about 911???
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BioNuke1 said:
From what I saw on the Discovery channel documentary, the jet's impact knocked most of the insulation off at least a few center columns. The loss of insulation, added load on the center columns (due to the loss of a portion of the outside columns from the jet impact) led to the collapse of the buildings. The Discovery documentary brought up that question and answered it. Very interesting show. The combination of all the events, the loss of the outside support columns from the impact of the plane (shocking computer models of what happened as the plane entered the building and the damage that caused), the resulting ignition of fuel causing a HOT fire of jet fuel and the impact related loss of "fireproof" insulation to multiple, major internal support columns, caused the collapse.
Check it out......... They interviewed the building enginerd and the architect and they both thought that to be possible/plausible. (so the govt. paid off the Discovery channel and the interviewees also)
Edit: http://www.thehistorychannel.com/th...ds=world+trade+center&networkCode=THC&x=0&y=0
OK....it was the history channel and they are showing the same program on Sunday, Sept 4, at 8 pm Eastern, Monday, Sept. 5 @ 12am ET and again on Sept 11 @ 8 pm ET.
I love America and the fact that we are free that is the whole reason you should look in to it your self, belive some, none, or all of it I dont care.
that is not the only person out there saying this.
911inplanesite.com
I dont know why every one get's so pissy at me, I have not said I belive one way or the other. all I say is look at it and decide for your self
that is not the only person out there saying this.
911inplanesite.com
I dont know why every one get's so pissy at me, I have not said I belive one way or the other. all I say is look at it and decide for your self
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53 willys said:
I'll watch your show if you watch mine. Deal?
I remember seeing the people falling but only remember seeing smoke pouring out of the impact areas. If you've ever caught diesel on fire, it burns HOT.
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
....kinda like this picture......?
According to this website (and from me remembering the History channel show now) the collapse was caused by the actual loss of the floor joists that held the outer perimeter to the inner core. This caused the upper floors of the building to fall onto the lower floors and you get the 'sandwich' effect.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/
...INTERESTING video. Check out the "Deconstructing the Towers' Collapse (Video) hyperlink
Here's your version......(I think)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html
http://www.plaguepuppy.net/public_html/collapse update/
From reading a little of the 'lewrockwell.com' site, I think this picture blows his 'theory' out of the water......
That's a lot of feul to be put in place for a conspiracy. No office workers would ever notice that, right?
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Like mbryson said read that above. Its exactly what was in every sientific write up on the towers falling. This Michael Moore wanna be just wants to talk to hear his head rattle.
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Herzog said:Being weary and not trusting the government != Hating America.
I'm a neutral party, and I've heard it all from both sides. :-\
easy now I didn't say that, but It seems to me these folks are out for the current administration, I could be wrong but there's alot of that going on latley
phillippi said:Like mbryson said read that above. Its exactly what was in every sientific write up on the towers falling. This Michael Moore wanna be just wants to talk to hear his head rattle.
Michael Moore just made bush look like a dumb A$$ he did not expose the the real facts.
aircraft aluminum is very thin I think a lot of you wold be suprised there is nothing to them.
there is sientific write ups on both sides. the documentary is 4hours long and has boat loads of sientifc facts about how the goverment knew. But the mainstream media does not report any of this.
53 willys said:
Yes, but the skin isn't the only thing that melted on these planes. The network of supports for the wings/fuselage also melted, the wings just bent down and fell. True, there is a lot of fuel(weight) in those wings, but you would need a lot of heat to get the framework to weaken like that.
Michael Moore is a moron.
He is right along the line of Michael Crooks. There is a documentary out called Fairen-hype 911 that goes through his documentary and brings the truth out. I haven't seen it, but it's supposed to be pretty good.
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53 willys said:
It seems to me the floor on the 3-5 floor supports affected by the impact of a heavily fuel laden jet liner would be quite affected. The picture above is enough for me. I like the MIT guy's theory that were picked up by PBS and the History Channel. It's to simple and logical.
The conspiracy theory is way to theatric and difficult to pull off without being found out unless someone planted those bombs during the building's construction. IT was NIXON......!!!!!
The only rivet I remember hearing about is the one Paul Jr. put on the 'Fire Bike'.
Let's just suppose the conspiracy theory is right. That took out ALL of lower Manhattan's financial district's communications and transportation systems. It also could have killed WAY more people than it did. (Frankly, I can't believe there weren't 50,000 or so causualties---dem were big buildings.) Who would gain the most from that? To much risk for any political motive. Follow the money..... It just doesn't add up to me. (some bond trader that was mad at the economy?)
weeks before the attack there was a power outage on the upper floors for 36 hours maybe they brought the explosives in then.
They would do it to scare us in to submission. To take away the constutional rights we have. The patroit act is what they are using to take our rights away. If you have never looked at the patroit act you should there is some very scary stuff in there. and they are tring to pass part two now.
it's the same thing Hitler did, set fire to he's own reichstag and then blamed it on terrorist, he said give the state (hitler) the power to do X and we will protect you from the terrorist, the same thing could have happed with WTC.
get this they even had a terroer alert system kind of like ours, to help keep the population scared.
what about thishttp://arnoldexposed.com
They would do it to scare us in to submission. To take away the constutional rights we have. The patroit act is what they are using to take our rights away. If you have never looked at the patroit act you should there is some very scary stuff in there. and they are tring to pass part two now.
it's the same thing Hitler did, set fire to he's own reichstag and then blamed it on terrorist, he said give the state (hitler) the power to do X and we will protect you from the terrorist, the same thing could have happed with WTC.
get this they even had a terroer alert system kind of like ours, to help keep the population scared.
what about thishttp://arnoldexposed.com
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53 willys said:it's the same thing Hitler did, set fire to he's own reichstag and then blamed it on terrorist, he said give the state (hitler) the power to do X and we will protect you from the terrorist, the same thing could have happed with WTC.
get this they even had a terroer alert system kind of like ours, to help keep the population scared.
what about thishttp://arnoldexposed.com
If you remember, Hitler did not get away with it and was sent to prision where he wrote a book...
It was years after that attempt when he finally came into power.
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"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
What makes this country as great as it is is the fact that there are two sides to every story and we have the right to look into both. If you close your eyes and minds to either side you're advocating ignorance and ignorance leads to the lack of freedom. Those who don't deserve freedom will lose it.
I'm not choosing a side, here, but I do find it scary when people get upset and threatened about this even being brought up. Though it can be difficult, remove your biases, study both sides freely, then decide. Don't automatically shut an idea out just because it doesn't fit with your current views/perspectives/or beliefs.
What makes this country as great as it is is the fact that there are two sides to every story and we have the right to look into both. If you close your eyes and minds to either side you're advocating ignorance and ignorance leads to the lack of freedom. Those who don't deserve freedom will lose it.
I'm not choosing a side, here, but I do find it scary when people get upset and threatened about this even being brought up. Though it can be difficult, remove your biases, study both sides freely, then decide. Don't automatically shut an idea out just because it doesn't fit with your current views/perspectives/or beliefs.
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