Jeep Jeep upcoming Straight Six: Hurricane

 
You can now buy a Hurricane Crate engine!!


"In crate form, the Hurricane is referred to as the HurriCrate, and there are two options currently available: a Cat 1 rated at 420 hp and a Cat 3 rated at 550 hp. Long-block versions are priced at $7,995 for the Cat 1 and $11,715 for the Cat 3. Short-block versions are more expensive here, priced at $10,495 for the Cat 1 and $13,745 for the Cat 3."
 
Its sad that i wish we could just go back to the old iron block I-6 :(


I do think people are getting concerned with repair expenses on the "exotic" engine designs that have been forced on us by the EPA standards. I'm curious to see the consumer pushback AND the mfg and .gov response to that. Saving the world is expensive and complex. Simple and reasonable repair is what people have expectations of. I think we'd all agree that small displacement engines cranking out 300+ HP requires some complex systems.

I was just on a phone call with my 34 yr old and his mom last night. She's looking at a new car because her Buick "Ecoboost" (really an EcoTech?) is to expensive to fix. She's looking at Mazda CX5 and Nissan Murano. She likes the Murano and my 34 yr old is banging against that due to the expense of the CVT transmission repairs.
 
I do think people are getting concerned with repair expenses on the "exotic" engine designs that have been forced on us by the EPA standards. I'm curious to see the consumer pushback AND the mfg and .gov response to that. Saving the world is expensive and complex. Simple and reasonable repair is what people have expectations of. I think we'd all agree that small displacement engines cranking out 300+ HP requires some complex systems.

I was just on a phone call with my 34 yr old and his mom last night. She's looking at a new car because her Buick "Ecoboost" (really an EcoTech?) is to expensive to fix. She's looking at Mazda CX5 and Nissan Murano. She likes the Murano and my 34 yr old is banging against that due to the expense of the CVT transmission repairs.
This is where I think Ford did the right thing with the 7.3 gas motor. It's a traditional pushrod engine. Where all of the manufactures are making things more complicated is with the 10 speed transmissions. They are great and keep the motor in a good place, but they have a lot of moving parts to fail.
 
Its sad that i wish we could just go back to the old iron block I-6 :(
This times 1,000,000

I was talking to an old Jeeping buddy yesterday about this and told him it’s insane that I can be looking at a 30 year old XJ with a 4.0 and an AW4 auto with 250k miles and I’ll tell myself “it’s probably mint” but get me ANY new vehicle with the same mileage and I’m genuinely concerned about the longevity of it. I know this can be taken to extremes and people will say we should all be driving trucks with 290hp SBC and I’m NOT about that life but still, there’s something to the idea.
 
This times 1,000,000

I was talking to an old Jeeping buddy yesterday about this and told him it’s insane that I can be looking at a 30 year old XJ with a 4.0 and an AW4 auto with 250k miles and I’ll tell myself “it’s probably mint” but get me ANY new vehicle with the same mileage and I’m genuinely concerned about the longevity of it. I know this can be taken to extremes and people will say we should all be driving trucks with 290hp SBC and I’m NOT about that life but still, there’s something to the idea.
Hoping a maintenance schedule not done by your typical duck owner and good oil will keep it healthy. But confidence isn’t high.
 
The only problem with the old 4.0 i6 is that it's absolutely ****ing terrible at everything. Gutless, heavy, leaky, unreliable.

Beyond that, it's great.

You left out easy and cheap to repair or even replace. I can buy a reman and install it quicker and cheaper myself than some of these new motors will take to get diagnosed, parts in and bent over on the labor for an actually non long term life threatening repair.

That's worth something.

And I'd quibble with gutless. On the freeway, yes. Lugging around at low RPM in the dirt, absolutely not. Have first hand experience with hills I drive up in 2 Hi, first gear, 2,000 RPM, that my buddies Tacoma has to be put in freaking low range to get up without stalling. For real. Combine Toyota gearing with 4.0 torque and it's just an effortless pleasure to let it grunt around in the dirt all day without effort.

Get on the interstate to drive home 300 miles and it sucks quite a bit for absolute sure too though.

Oh, and mine doesn't leak. Have had it 19 years. Did have to replace the RMS. And fully expect it to leak again at some point. But still, that was cheap and easy. And my 19 year old 4.0 doesn't leak a drop.

But, then, there is...

- DAA
 
You left out easy and cheap to repair or even replace. I can buy a reman and install it quicker and cheaper myself than some of these new motors will take to get diagnosed, parts in and bent over on the labor for an actually non long term life threatening repair.

That's worth something.

And I'd quibble with gutless. On the freeway, yes. Lugging around at low RPM in the dirt, absolutely not. Have first hand experience with hills I drive up in 2 Hi, first gear, 2,000 RPM, that my buddies Tacoma has to be put in freaking low range to get up without stalling. For real. Combine Toyota gearing with 4.0 torque and it's just an effortless pleasure to let it grunt around in the dirt all day without effort.

Get on the interstate to drive home 300 miles and it sucks quite a bit for absolute sure too though.

Oh, and mine doesn't leak. Have had it 19 years. Did have to replace the RMS. And fully expect it to leak again at some point. But still, that was cheap and easy. And my 19 year old 4.0 doesn't leak a drop.

But, then, there is...

- DAA
Yes but all of those things can also be said about a lighter, more powerful, more readily available 5.2/318 V8.

Comparing similarly built 4.0 and 5.2 zjs is very eye opening. The 5.2 has more power (low end and high end), 25% better mileage, easier to work on (that cps on the 4.0 can **** right off), cheap parts, and runs forever. The knock on the 5.2 is it's not a sexy V8. It's no ls or hemi or 5.9. It's just old reliable with just nough power.
 
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