leaked war video footage

GOAT

Back from the beyond
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Roanoke, VA
fighting journalist over there so we don't have to fight them here


another pretty good example why a superpower has no business fighting a guerrilla war.
 

phatfoto

Giver of bad advice
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Tooele
Its easy to make judgements when you don't have a dog in the fight... But I agree there are some bad things going on...
 

DOSS

Poker of the Hornets Nest
Location
Suncrest
I would have pulled the trigger.. easy to make judgment calls when you can review the vid multiple times and pause it. much more difficult when you are in the situation. Not that I agree with the War/conflict etc but put yourself in the position that the gunner is in and you would be singing a different tune.
 

RockMonkey

Suddenly Enthusiastic
War is hell.

They're forced to make decisions based on the information they have available. Even when you can review the footage in slow motion with zero pressure, it's hard to tell exactly who is carrying what.

It sucks that innocent people were killed, and kids were hurt. The journalists knew the risks they were taking going in. When you hang out in war zones, there's a chance you're going to get shot at. As for the kids, they should never have been in that van. There's a serious lack of judgment going on taking kids into that situation. The helicopter pilots had no idea there were kids in the van. Even zoomed in on slow motion you can't really tell those are kids in the van window.

Bottom line: I'm not outraged. War sucks and people get killed. I'm surprised people are shocked by this.
 

GOAT

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Roanoke, VA
I'm surprised people are shocked by this.

Really?


Could it be that the american media outlets do a piss-poor job covering the true cost of war? Remember the pictures of dead or wounded soldiers, and flagged draped coffins of vietnam? Americans were outraged and pressured the government to put an end to the conflict. The powers at be have learned not to make this mistake again thus you have to watch youtube for objective information.

I find a the attitude towards this a bit ironic. People LOSE their minds and start e-ranting about taking arms against the government because they were going to get universal healthcare. What do you think this same group would do if a few chinese tanks rolled through daybreak and started shooting up the neighborhood? War is hell? Bet each of them would be singing a different tune.

The US is an invading and occupying army. Every time an innocent civilian get killed or wounded or we destroy their property in some random engagement, we just strengthened the opposition. I go back to my original statement that the if the US regards itself as a righteous and just nation, then it does not belong fighting a guerrilla war. Yes you put kids with massive firepower in those situations and mistakes will happen, but enough is enough. Get them out of Iraq.


Oh, and what dog does anyone here have?
 
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Tacoma

Et incurventur ante non
Location
far enough away
Really?


Could it be that the american media outlets do a piss-poor job covering the true cost of war unless a Republican is in office and it's not unpopular to try and shame the country? Remember the pictures of dead or wounded soldiers, and flagged draped coffins of vietnam? Leftist plants were outraged and pressured the government to put an end to the conflict. The powers at be have learned not to make this mistake again thus you have to watch youtube for objective information.

I find a the attitude towards this a bit ironic. People LOSEtheir minds and start e-ranting about taking arms against the government because they were going to get universal healthcare despite their "representative government ignoring the majority of its constituents' wishes, and ramrodding it through anyway. Taxation without representation much? . What do you think this same group would do if a few chinese tanks rolled through daybreak and started shooting up the neighborhood? War is hell? Bet each of them would be singing a different tune.

The US is an invading and occupying army. Every time an innocent civilian get killed or wounded or we destroy their property in some random engagement, we just strengthened the opposition. I go back to my original statement that the if the US regards itself as a righteous and just nation, then it does not belong fighting a guerrilla war. Yes you put kids with massive firepower in those situations and mistakes will happen, but enough is enough. Get them out of Iraq.


Oh, and what dog does anyone here have?

Fixed it. ;)
 

GOAT

Back from the beyond
Location
Roanoke, VA
Absolutely not! You totally spelled "lose" wrong. :rofl::ugh::D

thats a relief. i would rather you point out my failure to spell-check, than to think you actually believed what you wrote. i would worry.










kinda:p
 
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