Uhh...so those talk/radio shows, SNL, etc forced him to go on air? All of his media attention was brought on by himself. He made it even worse when he cancelled with Letterman.
McCain: What happened?
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Uhh...so those talk/radio shows, SNL, etc forced him to go on air? All of his media attention was brought on by himself. He made it even worse when he cancelled with Letterman.
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I'm not talking live interviews, I'm talking about the constant belittling for the last 3 months all over the country, be it nationwide networks or mom and pop local stations. The media played a large role in this election. I think they ramped up the anti-Bush rhetoric big time before this election, including dropping the Blame for the economy on his shoulders rather than the Democratic controlled Congress.
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Brett
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I'm not sure I would go as far to say that it was the media that killed McCain's chance's these last few months. When the floor fell out on the economy, he was left standing in the dust, with nothing to say. His response was that he'd cancel his campaign and head to Washington was nothing but erratic and didn't make sense to anyone. He's just one person, he might make a difference, but I still think that it was just a ploy for media coverage. John McCain was someone people looked to for decisions on foreign policy, his strong point as we all know. He just didn't have anything decisive to say about the economy.
Some of the ideas that he "came up with" were odd as well. Buy up all the bad mortgages, as he annouced at a rally, well, that was a provision of the bailout package. Just strange to me, he should have already known that.
Anyway, as for the mortgage industry, I don't think that anyone should blame President Bush or Congress entirely. The companies, Washington Mutual, Lehman Bros, all of them, plus the goverment are all included in the problems. The companies for essentially being greedy by even making those loans to people that realisitically couldn't afford them. And for the goverment for allowing deregulation of the industry that even allowed this to happen.
Thankfully, I work for a bank that wasn't dumb
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Interesting choice of wording how you used the last name only for George Walker Bush and for John Sidney McCain lll, and the full name for Obama. Just making an observation.....
Brett
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......Anyway, as for the mortgage industry, I don't think that anyone should blame President Bush or Congress entirely. The companies, Washington Mutual, Lehman Bros, all of them, plus the goverment are all included in the problems. The companies for essentially being greedy by even making those loans to people that realisitically couldn't afford them. And for the goverment for allowing deregulation of the industry that even allowed this to happen.
Thankfully, I work for a bank that wasn't dumb
From my "professional" analysis, that "crisis" has been a long time coming, starting back with the last few Clinton years and some deregulation and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac. The bank I worked for SHUT DOWN their lending at that time due to some of the incoming regulations (and a few other reasons, but that was a primary). They were RIDICULOUSLY profitable lending to "b" and "c" credit people on auto loans. That ultimately shut down the whole bank
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Not sure if any of you watched the Frontline show on PBS about the two. It really opened my eyes on the two. They showed Obama's speeches from a long time ago. He was literally saying the same thing in them then. His campaign manager admitted that he memorized them and used the same one over and over. I just wanted him to tell me straight up what his plans were to fix things. I didn't need to here (WE NEED CHANGE) over and over. NO ****!!
People just got caught up in his evangelical preacher style speeches and didn't really think about whether they had any substance.
McCain I think just failed to rally people around him. And light a torch under people to convince them he had the answers.
I built my first house in the start of the Carter era. Damn bad recession then. And he was clueless how to stop the implosion then. I almost lost my house then. It was ugly. I hope Obama handles the economy better!
People just got caught up in his evangelical preacher style speeches and didn't really think about whether they had any substance.
McCain I think just failed to rally people around him. And light a torch under people to convince them he had the answers.
I built my first house in the start of the Carter era. Damn bad recession then. And he was clueless how to stop the implosion then. I almost lost my house then. It was ugly. I hope Obama handles the economy better!
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I didn't say it killed his chances I say it was a major factor compared to years past IMO. Any republican was an underdog form the get go, he gained more ground than many expected him to gain. There were more non-traditional voters in this election than ever before, Obama was able to rally a typical apathetic group into swaying the vote in many battleground states. His campaign was well planned and well funded (1 billion dollars
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We will see in a year.
Obama is already saying it might not get done in one term.
He does'nt say what won't get done though and that leaves open that nothing will get done.
Obama is already saying it might not get done in one term.
He does'nt say what won't get done though and that leaves open that nothing will get done.
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McCain's campaign underestimated the public. He hedged on the wealthy right wing supporters. I said it over and again, the choice for Palin was risky. I still do not grasp the reasoning for that (if they even wanted to win).
He had every unlikely chance with someone closer to the middle as a VP.
I am disappointed in the rhetorical announcements - "US has elected the first black president."
Why dont they say - " US has elected the first half white president " ?
Because the polls showed 95% of black people voted for obama.
He had every unlikely chance with someone closer to the middle as a VP.
I am disappointed in the rhetorical announcements - "US has elected the first black president."
Why dont they say - " US has elected the first half white president " ?
Because the polls showed 95% of black people voted for obama.
Brett
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20/20 hindsite tells me if he had chosen someone like Romney, or Huckabee, he would have had a MUCH better chance. That and different campaign managers as well.
Brett
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Long answer is yes
Brett
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Oh man... is that a sore spot for you???
But I think you are right... Brett can't count.
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I've seen numbers from 550-750 million, and that was direct effort of his campaign. Including fringe campaigns (ie those not directly associated with his finances, local levels, etc) its estimated in the 900 million range.