- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
You’ve been threatening this for a long time, and I’m tired of waiting on you.
Nate’s longterm tiny shop build
- Thread starter N-Smooth
- Start date
I figured it would be a great first project for the shop when it’s done so you better get used to waiting 🤣
The engineering office got the plans to me today but they left out the scissor trusses and skylights 💩
In the meantime I've been working on gas for the future NG firepit. I decided the HizzleDizzle kit is the best option so I ordered it up. I actually already have plenty of the poly from my BIL but piecing together the kit at HD is wayyyy more expensive for some reason. I'm hoping to return the poly but I doubt it'll work. Oh well. Anybody ever mess with this stuff? I'm not getting a permit (because eff that) and I have a fire sprinkler buddy that'll help me with the plumbing and pressure test it. Seems like a win...?
In the meantime I've been working on gas for the future NG firepit. I decided the HizzleDizzle kit is the best option so I ordered it up. I actually already have plenty of the poly from my BIL but piecing together the kit at HD is wayyyy more expensive for some reason. I'm hoping to return the poly but I doubt it'll work. Oh well. Anybody ever mess with this stuff? I'm not getting a permit (because eff that) and I have a fire sprinkler buddy that'll help me with the plumbing and pressure test it. Seems like a win...?
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Your definately going to burn your house down
Pike2350
Registered User
- Location
- Salt Lake City
I ran my own line to my garage with a tee to my firepit. SUPER EASY. After I was done (the depth in my yard was the worst part...so many roots and rocks) I had my wife's uncle come do a pressure test on it. Kept pressure....so we hooked it up.
Luckily, with the addition, they are finally coming back tomorrow to hook it back up, so we will have heat in the garage....a little too cold for the firepit though.
Pile of parts
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- Location
- South Jordan
I ran that to my shop and even had it inspected. Easy enough to work with and inspection was just a pressure test. System has to hold pressure for x amount of time. They also want to see the open trench to check depth. You can run gas and electric in the same trench.
That's a risk I'm willing to take, cutie pie. I still need the dimensions of your mini-split condenser when you get a sec.
Good to hear you didn't think it was difficult. It seems pretty straight-forward to me and the pressure test will make me feel good about it.
For one I'm sick of giving WJ money for permits/inspections. Secondly, I can't even find their code on fire pits and/or gas lines but I expect they'd have some issues with how close it'll be to my house so I'd rather not open myself up for their scrutiny. I'm a little concerned that they'll walk past it for an inspection on the shop and take notice so I'll have to figure out a way to avoid that- like locking the gate on that side. Like I said above, I'm not concerned about safety since I'll pressure test it. Most I'm seeing online is people saying 10 PSI for 2 hours or so but I'd like to just do it overnight or similar.
Pile of parts
Well-Known Member
- Location
- South Jordan
Yeah, I guess if you're not taking out a permit on the build anyway... I did because I figured a detached garage was big enough the city could see it from the street and too much of an investment to have to tear it down if they didn't approve. The big benefit is, you buy the permit and the inspections are free.🤣
Oh yeah the garage is going to be permitted because there’s no way I have good enough luck to get away with that. My neighbor got busted by the city during his freaking deck build. They just drive around our neighborhood since it’s new.
Pile of parts
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- Location
- South Jordan
Ah, gotcha. South Jordan had a pretty extensive packet about the codes and regulations when I designed and built mine. They were also good to talk with when I had questions. I had all my locations for gas and electrical listed on my plans. I also had to provide where power and gas were coming from. I certainly could have not told them there would be gas and done it later, but since I had to trench for power and the gas could run in the same trench, it was just as easy to go through the process. Especially since I had it all approved prior to construction.
Yeah I’ve always had great luck finding their code stuff online but I can’t find crap about gas. I’d call and ask but then I’m afraid I’m on their radar lol. Since it’s just a 20’ run to a fire pit I’m not really concerned.
rholbrook
Well-Known Member
- Location
- Kaysville, Ut
My neighbor did just this. It was a waste of time and money in my opinion. He only went up a foot or two. He just pre-framed some 2x4 walls, lifted his shop and put the new walls under it.
Tonkaman
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- Location
- West Jordan
Honestly if you don’t see pressure loss after 2 hours it’s plenty. If you’re worried, don’t extend the test, raise the pressure. You’ll expose weak spots much easier that way.
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it!
I got it for free and wondered the same thing but the charts I’m finding about that are based on distance the pipe has to travel and size say 1” is good for 196k BTU. 3/4” would be 110 and 1/2” would be 52. I read a lot about people getting their fire pit done and then being pissed that the flames don’t go very high at all. I’d rather have mine be overkill and have to turn it down than be bummed out by it being weak sauce.
Oh and I’ve seen a couple videos where people had leaks from the couplers. Some bad reviews on HD as well. I assume people are idiots and they just didn’t cut them flush but I dunno.
- Location
- Sandy, Ut
We ran underground poly gas line when I did my shop. We didn’t use any couplers, my HVAC guy used a neat tool to ‘weld’ the joint inside my shop. In hindsight, I wish I would have run gas out to our fire pit like you’re doing. We did kick a gas stub out for our BBQ.
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
The bbq stub is mandatory for me.
- Location
- West Haven, UT
We did the same - ran gas line to the shop and had a firepit line Teed into it and placed in the backyard. The inspection was a pressure test as everyone else has said. The inspector didn't inspect the trenching or measure depth at all. Now actually putting in a firepit will be a project for next year. The gas stub is in the yard, next is to pour a slab or use bricks to form the foundation. We'll get that done and then look at fire pits.
In more more firepit discussion
In more more firepit discussion
Pile of parts
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- Location
- South Jordan
Mine leaked on my first test. Make sure you use a couple of big pipe wrenches and tighten the coupling down all the way. And like you said, cut your ends square. You won't have any problem if you do that.
So last night I spent about an hour scouring the interwebs for some type of fire code and came up empty. So I called WJ building dept to ask them- against my better judgement- and the guy was super confused. He said he handles the gas line part but how far from structures etc is up to WJ Fire Marshal. So I asked him how deep I need to bury the lines and he was like "ummm uhhhh... just do a couple feet and bury a tracer wire about a foot above it" so that's clear as mud. I had no concerns about how I'm burying it but thought I'd ask since I had him on the phone. Regrets.
I tried calling the FD 3x now and can't get anyone on the phone. Pretty standard nonsense in my experience.
I tried calling the FD 3x now and can't get anyone on the phone. Pretty standard nonsense in my experience.