Obama abortion

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[GOAT]

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[unltd1]

If you believe everything you see on TV, then:

All black people are criminals. There are no morbidly obese people. A teacher can turn an entire classroom of gang members into college graduates. King Leonidas willingly battled the Persian Army. Kids can be wizards. Dogs can talk. Dead people torture us through our computers. Sexual predators live right next to you...on both sides....and are just waiting for your kid to walk outside alone. Georgia is being innocently attacked by Russia (too soon for that one?). And daddy-long-legs are the most poisonous spider IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DOSS]

Im not Pro-Choice.. I am Pro Abortion Some just need to be aborted later in life than others

 

[scoutabout]

If you believe everything you see on TV, then:

All black people are criminals. There are no morbidly obese people. A teacher can turn an entire classroom of gang members into college graduates. King Leonidas willingly battled the Persian Army. Kids can be wizards. Dogs can talk. Dead people torture us through our computers. Sexual predators live right next to you...on both sides....and are just waiting for your kid to walk outside alone. Georgia is being innocently attacked by Russia (too soon for that one?). And daddy-long-legs are the most poisonous spider IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!

Uh. But Obama does support infanticide and partial birth abortion.

 

[GOAT]

I would have to ask what else the proposal was loaded with? Seems like every time a decision like this has to be made, there is always more to it.

I am not defending Obama BTW, just abortion

 

[4554x4]

Obama for president?

I found this website. Makes my skin crawl. www.nohussein.org

 

[unltd1]

Please, I beg of you, do your research before you post a thread accusing a person of supporting infanticide
(def: 1. the act of killing an infant.
2. the practice of killing newborn infants.
3. a person who kills an infant.)

Nothing is ever as it seems, especially in politics. Whether you support McCain, Obama, or Snuffalupagus, stick with facts, and don't get blinded by emotional accusations. You have the RIGHT to question and research. DO IT! Know for SURE!!!!

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html

This entry by factcheck.org shows how even the slightest wording can mean the difference between a yes or no vote, and can be interpreted very loosely. If you are 100% pro-life, then you will read an entirely different truth from the entry than if you are 100% pro-choice, and that's with all the facts right there in front of you!

Check your emotions at the door. There is no "truth" in politics. It's just a game.

We as Americans not only have the right, but the responsibility to fact-check anything we're told by politically-skewed organizations. Use your minds, people. Be proud of your intelligence. Question everything. Don't blindly agree with something just because you hear scary music and see visions of a healthy baby (not EVEN a fetus) being left in a #%&ing closet. Don't let your hearstrings take the place of logic. Are we a nation of mindless sheep? Politicians certainly hope so...

THINK! THINK! THINK! THINK! THINK!

 

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Please, I beg of you, do your research before you post a thread accusing a person of supporting infanticide
(def: 1. the act of killing an infant.
2. the practice of killing newborn infants.
3. a person who kills an infant.)

And I beg of you to do additional research. "Born alive" abortions ARE infanticide. The link you provided details Obama's pro stance on "born alive" abortions (PC term for infanticide).

definition of infant:
1 : a child in the first period of life
2 : a person who is not of full age

To further qualify this definition, here are two more definitions for clarification.

definition of child:
1 a: an unborn or recently born person b dialect : a female infant
2 a: a young person especially between infancy and youth b: a childlike or childish person c: a person not yet of age
3 usually childe \ˈchī(-ə)ld\ archaic : a youth of noble birth
4 a: a son or daughter of human parents b: descendant
5: one strongly influenced by another or by a place or state of affairs

definition of person:
1: human, individual —sometimes used in combination especially by those who prefer to avoid man in compounds applicable to both sexes <chairperson><spokesperson>
2: a character or part in or as if in a play : guise
3 a: one of the three modes of being in the Trinitarian Godhead as understood by Christians b: the unitary personality of ****** that unites the divine and human natures
4 aarchaic : bodily appearance b: the body of a human being; also : the body and clothing <unlawful search of the person>
5: the personality of a human being : self
6: one (as a human being, a partnership, or a corporation) that is recognized by law as the subject of rights and duties
7: reference of a segment of discourse to the speaker, to one spoken to, or to one spoken of as indicated by means of certain pronouns or in many languages by verb inflection

One might debate that a baby in the process of being aborted may or may not be "one that is recognized by law as the subject of rights and duties" or "human, individual" to qualify as a "person" under these technical definitions. That might be debatable, but based on these definitions, "child" applies, therefore "infant" applies and therefore "infanticide" applies.

Thanks for providing that link. It clearly outlines how Obama voted against a bill banning "born alive" abortions while in the Illinois State Senate. His reasoning was lack of protection for Roe v Wade, stating he would support a similar bill with such protection. Then it was determined that he also voted against a bill meeting the qualifications he previously said he would support (protection of Roe v Wade). So, given several opportunities, he has been consistent in supporting infanticide or "born alive" abortions.

I personally don't agree with abortion, but I don't think the government should make that decision for everyone. I am solidly against partial-birth and "born alive" abortion.

And I'm voting for the only candidate with any integrity in this election. Ralph Nader. I disagree with some of his positions, but at least you always know where he stands and he isn't bought and paid for by corporate and special interest donations. Both McCain and Obama change their stated positions based on who they are speaking in front of that day. I haven't seen the same from Nader.

 

[GOAT]

And I'm voting for the only candidate with any integrity in this election. Ralph Nader. I disagree with some of his positions, but at least you always know where he stands and he isn't bought and paid for by corporate and special interest donations. Both McCain and Obama change their stated positions based on who they are speaking in front of that day. I haven't seen the same from Nader.

did that eight years ago. good luck

 

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did that eight years ago. good luck

Me too, and I did it again 4 years ago. I'll keep voting 3rd party until something changes.

 

[GOAT]

Me too, and I did it again 4 years ago. I'll keep voting 3rd party until something changes.

Agreed, like the Electoral College . Until some modern miracle occurs and our votes start counting, be prepared to remain content with a one party state masquerading as a two party state (USA).

 

[kbjames]

Our votes, can count...its just that 4/5ths of us live in the wrong state. YOu need to move to one of the 10 or so swing states.

The electoral college is indeed a joke!