Please school me on communication devices

SmokinCamel

Went from 80" to 125" :)
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Salt Lake City
I and a friend ran a booster on our semi truck for 4 or so years. It did make a difference. If he kept dropping calls, I know he forgot to plug it back in. Never tried it away from highways and such. It's goin to be used on an expo rig whenever I get around to getting one. I bought mine from the radio shack in Moab. They were the only ones that had the wireless attenna that grab the signal from the phone. Instead of the one that plugged into the phone itself.
 
My exp. w/ HAM, sat phone & cell phone

I wheel (alone) and race sail boats so I've thought a lot about communication in a pinch. I've considered both ham and sat phone. The issues as I see them are as follows.

I've used both radio and sat phone (on the ocean - when someone else is paying) and I have to say the sat phone is easier - just like using a cell phone. We had the sat phone because as per our medic's request so do yer own figurn there. Sat phones can be had for a few hundred bucks, and you can buy all different types of plans including "emergency use" only.

On the other hand, you need a plan, there's relatively few providers, and well, if the s___ really hit the fan, it's not a HAM radio.

On the HAM side, there's a bit of work to getting and maintaining a HAM license and to antenna set-up before you can use it. As I figure it, there's only a few places on a few roads where I like to go that would be good to HAM home so I'm pretty sure I'd need to move the radio from the get go. On the other hand, there are now a few rf signal propagation apps that seem like they'd tell you (before you get there) exactly where you won't get a signal so that's in favour of HAM.

I've also noticed that I get a cell signal in a lot of areas across the western states as long as I'm near a high point. For me that erodes a lot of the benefit of HAM.

From the little I know about SPOT (~$99/yr), that seems fair for one way communication. ~$49/month gets you 2 way, on demand voice over sat phone but that's only for ~40 minutes.

To me this argues in favour of the sat phone for very back country use. I like the fact that it is stand alone gear. I like the fact that everything needed goes in a small Pelican case. And I like the fact that anyone can use it.

Your needs may be different.
Chewy
 

Caleb

Well-Known Member
Location
Riverton
I wheel (alone) and race sail boats so I've thought a lot about communication in a pinch. I've considered both ham and sat phone. The issues as I see them are as follows.

I've used both radio and sat phone (on the ocean - when someone else is paying) and I have to say the sat phone is easier - just like using a cell phone. We had the sat phone because as per our medic's request so do yer own figurn there. Sat phones can be had for a few hundred bucks, and you can buy all different types of plans including "emergency use" only.

On the other hand, you need a plan, there's relatively few providers, and well, if the s___ really hit the fan, it's not a HAM radio.

On the HAM side, there's a bit of work to getting and maintaining a HAM license and to antenna set-up before you can use it. As I figure it, there's only a few places on a few roads where I like to go that would be good to HAM home so I'm pretty sure I'd need to move the radio from the get go. On the other hand, there are now a few rf signal propagation apps that seem like they'd tell you (before you get there) exactly where you won't get a signal so that's in favour of HAM.

I've also noticed that I get a cell signal in a lot of areas across the western states as long as I'm near a high point. For me that erodes a lot of the benefit of HAM.

From the little I know about SPOT (~$99/yr), that seems fair for one way communication. ~$49/month gets you 2 way, on demand voice over sat phone but that's only for ~40 minutes.

To me this argues in favour of the sat phone for very back country use. I like the fact that it is stand alone gear. I like the fact that everything needed goes in a small Pelican case. And I like the fact that anyone can use it.

Your needs may be different.
Chewy

It's not really accurate to compare a PLB with a sat phone. While the communications is two way with the sat phone, it does't relay your position. So if you're in the middle of the back country, need help and have no idea where you are...all you can really say is I need help. A SPOT (or other PLB) is going to give your exact location. Just because I can't hear what they are saying is no reason I'd give up having some kind of PLB. Plus, $99/yr is a lot less than $600/yr for very little use. Plus you can get the PLB hardware for as little as $60, sat phones are obviously much more.

I'm not dismissing sat phones, but a sat phone and a PLB are two entirely different things. They go better being used together, not instead of each other.
 

irish1371

Member
most of the military version cell phones have a port for an external antenna. You can get a powered assist amp for an external cell antenna and you would be in service even out there.

last one I put together was 60 for the external and amp, I had a mil motorola that it would work with
 
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