Police and private church property

[Spork]

That's not UHP that's the federales sitting at the NSA gate

Says UHP on the side of the car/truck/SUV...

 

[TRD270]

Hmm, I used to work in that area cars look similar. But the Feds might be contracting with UHP to cover shifts

 

[nnnnnate]

I don't know about Trevor, but will inject my opinion. I don't like it when police break the law period.

I thought we established that a police officer doing traffic control from private property wasn't breaking the law.

 

[glockman]

I thought we established that a police officer doing traffic control from private property wasn't breaking the law.

If it's not illegal, I have no issues with it. I think they could better use their resources but it doesn't really bother me.

 

[Cascadia]

I like police. I have some of my family and close friends on different forces. But I am the same. I don't like when cops do illegal things. The one that bugs me the most is when they continually switch lanes and never use a blinker. If I have to do it why don't they? Again, that's just one of my peeves and I have no issue with cops.

 

[jeeper]

I followed a uhp trooper who was playing on facebook while he drove. I sent uhp an email explaining how I thought it was a slap to the public to have troopers playing on their computers while ticketed others for using phones. The email I got back said that they are police and need to be in touch with the community, and facebook is a good tool.


I wanted to flip out.

 

[jentzschman]

I guess I look at it like this: Can I pull into a church parking lot and check my email, text someone, have a nap, watch a parade, etc? If I can do this the cop can also. Both of us can be asked to leave, until we are asked to leave by someone with some rights to the property it's totally legal.

If we're going to turn this into a things police do that make you wonder discussion, someone needs to bring up the UHP officer parked at Camp Williams every day with lights on. Is there a reason it's UHP and not some MP or private security person?

The issue I have, I guess, is they are a public servant on official time vs a citizen using the space temporarily. If they want to use the space off the clock I see no issue with that. But then they are on official time, using private property should not be allowed, just my opinion. It's the sneaky way they do it that bothers me. If we can be asked to leave private property, then so should they. Guess in my mind I see an issue with the police using private property as their work space.

 

[TJDukit]

you can bet that if the property owner, in this case the church ever asked said officer to leave their property they would comply. If they didn't a quick phone call would resolve the situation.

 

[UNSTUCK]

I have a UHP car parked a few doors down from me. He parks in the driveway behind his truck. The driveway is short enough that the car is always parked over the sidewalk and the back of the car hangs out into the street. He also has a bike rack on the car. When it is left down it sticks way into the street. On a few occasions I have been close to hitting it.
If he doesn't park in the driveway he parks in the street with his pass side tires on the grass between the street and the sidewalk. The grass is dead now.

I know there is city parking codes that he is violating. I've been temped to print them out and put them under his windshield wiper for him to see and read.

I know this guys is just a guy, like the rest of us, and I am glad that he has chosen this profession to help me and my family be safer. At the same time, I feel that he should be an example of doing things the right way. Cops that brake the law have no business in law enforcement.

 

[Jesser04]

Cops that brake the law have no business in law enforcement.

If this was the case we'd have no more cops.

 

[Cascadia]

Break. Not brake. If cops brake the law then they are stopping the law. That's how I read it at least.

 

[jeep-N-montero]

The issue I have, I guess, is they are a public servant on official time vs a citizen using the space temporarily. If they want to use the space off the clock I see no issue with that. But then they are on official time, using private property should not be allowed, just my opinion. It's the sneaky way they do it that bothers me. If we can be asked to leave private property, then so should they. Guess in my mind I see an issue with the police using private property as their work space.

If an officer is using the church parking lot to conduct any type of business that produces revenue then he is likely breaking the law, as the church is not zoned as such, at least that is how I interpret it. But I do know that police are supposed to get permission from a private residence if they want to sit in a driveway for speed traps or watching traffic.

 

[glockman]

If an officer is using the church parking lot to conduct any type of business that produces revenue then he is likely breaking the law, as the church is not zoned as such, at least that is how I interpret it. But I do know that police are supposed to get permission from a private residence if they want to sit in a driveway for speed traps or watching traffic.

This is awesome. I'm sure it would be illegally over ruled by a judge but it's awesome just the same.
I don't hate police but I have rarely had an interaction with any officer where he/she didn't try to violate my rights. On several occasions they have flat out broken the law and illegally searched me or my family, taken my property and been ignorant. I hate that. I've never been arrested, have no criminal record and don't hang around criminals. So when I see cops being sneaky, I think about how they would act if I were acting "suspicious" and reciprocate.

 

[cruiseroutfit]

If an officer is using the church parking lot to conduct any type of business that produces revenue then he is likely breaking the law, as the church is not zoned as such, at least that is how I interpret it. But I do know that police are supposed to get permission from a private residence if they want to sit in a driveway for speed traps or watching traffic.

That is probably the dumbest argument I have read yet. By your logic an ice cream man can't sell in a residential neighbourhood nor can a church collect tithes. Oh, and forget vending machines well just about anywhere not zoned retail.