Rocklogic

[N-Smooth]

Because obviously we don't see a reason to censor the fact that Prefect doesn't know what he is talking about.

why the

 

[Ford Prefect]

Because obviously we don't see a reason to censor the fact that Prefect doesn't know what he is talking about.

I do not think that is the case. I think it is more acurate to say that I do not agree with many of the people posting therefore I must be wrong, or stupid, or your choice of words to use against me.

Never the less. Yes, I did tell them that I could meet with them. Von said he would be in orem and I told him I could meet with him, but he ended up saying no. I told them that I would really rather not drive it out there because of the bent shaft unless the work was going to happen. Obviously I would be ok with them taking a look at it, if it was plausable for both parties.

As for if my jeep is a crummy jeep or not, well... I never said it was nice, I never said it was a rock crawler, infact I told him it was an old jeep, with not much lift, and I just wanted a skid plate. That all I wanted to have was a simple bent metal. It was their call that it would need the clocking ring even to do it, so fine, I went with that.

As for the request to do the shaft for free, well, as I said, I asked. I did not say tha tI required it of them. THEY agreed to doing it, therefore I really do not see how you can blame me for them saying that they are willing to do something and then changing their minds.

Picts of my jeep are actually posted on one of the rattlesnake trip reports. It is a small enough tan jeep, and there were not many pictures because, lets face it, as I have said multiple times, it is a smaller jeep, and therefore I do not really attract a lot of attention going over things because I can not go over that large of obsticles.

The personal attack towards me, well, I expect that is just stupid people not realizing their own stupidity, and that they would, in most cases, not act that way had they not had their tempers up when the wrote.

How was I screwed? Gee, lets think. I figure on about $100 in gas to get myself and three vehicles there and back (once in the jeep, twice in my car, both of my vehicles get rather poor mileage) plus the other little favors, and dinners I had to get for the people who took me up there just so I could get a ride back/there again. So, yeah, I spent a lot of time and money to get nothing. I am sorry if you do not see that as being a bit screwed, but I do.

Do I agree that it was wise that they not do the work, sure thing. If they could not do it, better to call me up and tell me that they could not do it. However, it would have been even better had they told me on the phone that there was no way they could even come close to the quote before I took the thing all the way up there.

Again, just telling my reasons, like them or not, that is why I feel the way I do.

Someone said that they are for sale, and that I should buy them? No, I do not know much about mechanics, and I will readily admit that to any who ask. Furthermore I really do not want to own my own business.

What do I do for a living? I do construction, and yes I do a lot of little things for people for free, because it always comes back to me in the end. If I use my equipment to dig a whole, or cut a driveway for someone, it always seems to come back with them oweing me a favor, and thusly people have been honerable to return favors when I am in need.

Cuiseroutfit: Yes, you are correct, lesson learned, for all, I am sure. You may also note that the timeframe on this was right around the first UROCK prior to easter. This is the first time I have said word one about it. I did not get on here right off and say that they were horrible people or anything of the sort, nor will I. I think they are decent enough guys, and I agree that they do cool work. Never the less, I was dissatisfied. Thanks for skipping the insulting remarks, which many of our fellows were unable to accomplish. Cheers


Thanks all, good day.

Brian

 

[cruiseroutfit]

...Cuiseroutfit: Yes, you are correct, lesson learned, for all, I am sure. You may also note that the timeframe on this was right around the first UROCK prior to easter. This is the first time I have said word one about it. I did not get on here right off and say that they were horrible people or anything of the sort, nor will I. I think they are decent enough guys, and I agree that they do cool work. Never the less, I was dissatisfied. Thanks for skipping the insulting remarks, which many of our fellows were unable to accomplish. Cheers...

Glad to see you are level-headed about the whole situtation. Its a fine line to walk, trying to please your utmost resource (customers) while trying to make a buck, as I have admitted, I have been on both sides of the line, some my fault, some my vendors fault, some I'm not sure their was a fault

Happy wheeling

 

[N-Smooth]

lesson learned, for all, I am sure. You may also note that the timeframe on this was right around the first UROCK prior to easter. This is the first time I have said word one about it. I did not get on here right off and say that they were horrible people or anything of the sort, nor will I.

hmmm... "right up until they screw you" and "rocklogic sucks" in a thread complimenting them, that seems pretty dick to me.
sorry for your loss, but there are other ways to solve your problems, like perhaps not going there again or telling them you think it is messed up.

i recently had a problem with a vendor for a part for my truck. i bought it from this vendor, had it installed and it turned out the part was faulty, they replaced the part (as they should) but would not cover the cost of installation! boy was i mad about it, but i took up the problem with them. i did not get on the internet and tell everyone i hated them and would never give them business again. i told them that. if someone was to perhaps ask my opinion on this particular vendor, i would voice it with reason. but i wouldn't go destroy a thread in which people are expressing their appreciation to the vendor.
no hard feelings at all, i just don't get it. but hey we all get pissed and do/say things that might be irrational.

p.s i never got the vendor to cover the cost of installation, i thought it was lame.

 

[rrefx]

Damn,
$200 for a custom built skid plate? I just payed about $430 for one, after taxes, from southdown. Looks like I should have checked out Rocklogic first!

 

[Bart]

I think BC summed this up as well as anyone could. You can't get a good quote over the phone, and free does not make a business money.

 

[Herzog]

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Thanks all, good day.

Brian

If you or anybody has a complaint about a business, don't jump on the forum and say " 'insert business name here' SUCKS! They Screwed me over..." etc.

Give some explaination as to why you feel that they have wronged you. That's why nobody took you serious in the first place.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with stating your opinion about a business, but rampant claims about their (or any one person for that matter) integrity without backup explainations isn't acceptable.

 

[BlackSheep]

If you or anybody has a complaint about a business, don't jump on the forum and say " 'insert business name here' SUCKS! They Screwed me over..." etc.

Give some explaination as to why you feel that they have wronged you. That's why nobody took you serious in the first place.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with stating your opinion about a business, but rampant claims about their (or any one person for that matter) integrity without backup explainations isn't acceptable.

kind of silly how we have to go through this same thing over and over when someone complains about someone or some business....

 

[N-Smooth]

kind of silly how we have to go through this same thing over and over and over and over and over and over when someone complains about someone or some business....

fixed it

 

[OCNORB]

I don't know why this went 4 pages... Just reading Ford Prefect's sig line tells me that he is not the kind of guy who's opinion is worth much.

 

[Bart]

Now, what was that blurb I read about RL selling? Did I miss something?

 

[PierCed_3]

I understand your frustration on this topic Ford but if you take your car to a mechanic and tell him that your battery is dead and he finds out he is going to have to give you a whole new battery, battery tray, and electrical system and then tells you how much it will be to replace it and you don't agree with it that doesn't mean that the shop is trying to screw you. I don't know any mechanic shop that will come pick your vehicle up so they can work on it. You are going to be out X amount of dollars either way. I have been on the recieving end of shops working on my junk then charging me WAY more than they initially quoted. At least they told you up front, for that I give them props.

What would be your ideal outcome for this problem? Obviously they can't do the work without some more money, my guess is that regardless of what shop you took it to the outcome would have been the same.

Since you posted this on a public forum I had to give my .02 cents.

 

[Ford Prefect]

I don't know any mechanic shop that will come pick your vehicle up so they can work on it. You are going to be out X amount of dollars either way.

What would be your ideal outcome for this problem?


Since you posted this on a public forum I had to give my .02 cents.

Firstly, I agree, not many would come and take the thing over to their shop. Never the less, I did try several times to get an estimate, and I was very clear as to the nature of the jeep. You have seen my jeep, not as nice as Kenneth, but not a hunk of junk either. FAR from a rock crawler. I told them I had a 3" lift, and 32's. As I said earlier, there was opportunity for them to take a look at the jeep. It was their suggestion that they come see it when they were in town. It did not end up happening. (I do not recall why, exactly, but I was willing.)

The outcome I would prefer?

The only thing is that Von did not talk with Bryson, Bryson is the mechanically inclined person, and knew what would need to be done, and furthermore could have given me a better estimate as to what was needed.

The price of taking the jeep up there had been included in my personal estimate as to if I could afford the work to be done. Also there was a time consideration. I was meant to go to Moab three weeks later. I told them that if they could not do it for some reason to tell me before I went up there, and I would try to find another shop to do the work. They said that they would do it, if they could have the jeep for two weeks. To which I agreed.


I agree that this site tends to harp on anyone who has a differing opinion about something, and perhaps I should have stated more clearly my reasoning for my dislike, never the less I feel that I should, as should all of you, feel free to state my thoughts.

I really do not care if people on here like me, or hate me. I am who I am, and I can afford to live life the way I like.

Cheers,
Brian

Oh, and what sort of idiot makes a judgment on someone based on their sig? I mean really, I take a chance to make a joke that you clearly do not understand, and you say I am not worth your time? Perhaps my mentality is above yours, and you do not want to waste time trying to understand that which you will never understand???

 

[PierCed_3]

Firstly, I agree, not many would come and take the thing over to their shop. Never the less, I did try several times to get an estimate, and I was very clear as to the nature of the jeep. You have seen my jeep, not as nice as Kenneth, but not a hunk of junk either. FAR from a rock crawler. I told them I had a 3" lift, and 32's. As I said earlier, there was opportunity for them to take a look at the jeep. It was their suggestion that they come see it when they were in town. It did not end up happening. (I do not recall why, exactly, but I was willing.)

The outcome I would prefer?

The only thing is that Von did not talk with Bryson, Bryson is the mechanically inclined person, and knew what would need to be done, and furthermore could have given me a better estimate as to what was needed.

The price of taking the jeep up there had been included in my personal estimate as to if I could afford the work to be done. Also there was a time consideration. I was meant to go to Moab three weeks later. I told them that if they could not do it for some reason to tell me before I went up there, and I would try to find another shop to do the work. They said that they would do it, if they could have the jeep for two weeks. To which I agreed.


I agree that this site tends to harp on anyone who has a differing opinion about something, and perhaps I should have stated more clearly my reasoning for my dislike, never the less I feel that I should, as should all of you, feel free to state my thoughts.

I really do not care if people on here like me, or hate me. I am who I am, and I can afford to live life the way I like.

Cheers,
Brian

Oh, and what sort of idiot makes a judgment on someone based on their sig? I mean really, I take a chance to make a joke that you clearly do not understand, and you say I am not worth your time? Perhaps my mentality is above yours, and you do not want to waste time trying to understand that which you will never understand???

I'm not gonna diss on your vehicle but it's hard to compare a CJ to Kenneth's. I just think it was cool that he at least tried to come take a look at it. Personally I wouldn't ever expect a shop or a mechanic to stop by and meet me somewhere. Most places would have just said "bring it down and let us take a look at it". The fact that he at least tried to come and meet you should mean something. I think you are not giving credit where credit is due. I think they did you a favor by not even tearing into it and giving you a fee for work done. (this would be screwing you)

I had a mechanic actually come to my house (6 blocks away) to give me a quote on a Mercedes with a 350 heart transplant and even though his initial quote was lower than when he came and looked at it I still give them props for making the attempt. Moral of the story, don't burn bridges... I think... I fail to see where they screwed you. What other shop would come to you, you would still be out the money with any other shop cuz you would still have to drive your vehicle to them right? I think you are expecting too much. Maybe they do things different in Colorado..

BTW, I don't get your sig.....

 

[Meat_]

Now, what was that blurb I read about RL selling? Did I miss something?

http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/showthread.php?p=239206

 

[BCGPER]

I think you have greatly under estimated Von's abilites. I'm a professional mechanic, and have worked side by side with him, thrashing on broken comp rigs between rounds. He's one of the best, and you obviously wouldn't know a good honest mechanic if you saw one.

Last reply, I'm out, this is a worthless thread. Hope I pass you on a trail broken down somewhere.

Firstly, I agree, not many would come and take the thing over to their shop. Never the less, I did try several times to get an estimate, and I was very clear as to the nature of the jeep. You have seen my jeep, not as nice as Kenneth, but not a hunk of junk either. FAR from a rock crawler. I told them I had a 3" lift, and 32's. As I said earlier, there was opportunity for them to take a look at the jeep. It was their suggestion that they come see it when they were in town. It did not end up happening. (I do not recall why, exactly, but I was willing.)

The outcome I would prefer?

The only thing is that Von did not talk with Bryson, Bryson is the mechanically inclined person, and knew what would need to be done, and furthermore could have given me a better estimate as to what was needed.

The price of taking the jeep up there had been included in my personal estimate as to if I could afford the work to be done. Also there was a time consideration. I was meant to go to Moab three weeks later. I told them that if they could not do it for some reason to tell me before I went up there, and I would try to find another shop to do the work. They said that they would do it, if they could have the jeep for two weeks. To which I agreed.


I agree that this site tends to harp on anyone who has a differing opinion about something, and perhaps I should have stated more clearly my reasoning for my dislike, never the less I feel that I should, as should all of you, feel free to state my thoughts.

I really do not care if people on here like me, or hate me. I am who I am, and I can afford to live life the way I like.

Cheers,
Brian

Oh, and what sort of idiot makes a judgment on someone based on their sig? I mean really, I take a chance to make a joke that you clearly do not understand, and you say I am not worth your time? Perhaps my mentality is above yours, and you do not want to waste time trying to understand that which you will never understand???

 

[OCNORB]

Oh, and what sort of idiot makes a judgment on someone based on their sig? I mean really, I take a chance to make a joke that you clearly do not understand, and you say I am not worth your time? Perhaps my mentality is above yours, and you do not want to waste time trying to understand that which you will never understand???

I guess I am! I did not call you any names. I merely stated that your sig line may be an example of your immaturity. We are all immature and unknowing about some things. I do not understand why you would put a definition that includes "having sex with" in your statement. I guess you could be compensating for something or trolling for a boyfriend. I dunno.
I don't get it. The same way you don't get it when a shop does it right and you can't understand why. THEY'RE NOT WALMART. They can't take a loss and survive it like a multimillion dollar company can. Making a small business work is very hard , custom fabrication is much harder. You are like most of us - spoiled on cheap chinese goods. I think they did you a favor by telling you right away that the phone quote was off. Many shops would've kept your Jeep, then you would have to pay the higher bill, or lose your Jeep.

 

[Hickey]

Ford Prefect, I understand and know full well what your sig means and where it came from. Ocnorb was spot on.

BC is also Spot on about Von's mech abilities.

 

[Caleb]

BC is also Spot on about Von's mech abilities.

heck yeah, Von can push broom with the best of 'em!!!

 

[James K]

heck yeah, Von can push broom with the best of 'em!!!

bwahahaha