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jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
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So Jo, Ut
I must have missed this, what are they talking about pistol braces? Educate the uninformed please.

120 days to remove your brace, register the gun as an SBR, or turn it over to the ATF.
Arm braces are now illegal, similar to bump stocks.
 

glockman

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Pleasant Grove
I must have missed this, what are they talking about pistol braces? Educate the uninformed please.
It's pretty much a backdoor way for them to find out who has them by threatening people with a felony if they don't send all their info to the ATF.

Do not comply.
When Tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.
 

jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
Location
So Jo, Ut
Forgive my ignorance but what makes a short barreled rifle or a pistol with a folding arm brace different or more dangerous than a standard rifle or pistol?

It's shorter than a rifle so you can hide it in your coat better, so you can murder more people.

And it's longer than a standard pistol, so you can shoulder it, which helps with accuracy when murdering people.
 

glockman

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Pleasant Grove
Forgive my ignorance but what makes a short barreled rifle or a pistol with a folding arm brace different or more dangerous than a standard rifle or pistol?
It helps with the recoil from the 50 cal projectile that the weapon fires at 30 rounds per second. It also helps stabilize a gun that as Sheila Jackson Lee said, "is as heavy as 10 boxes you might be moving. "
 

Tonkaman

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West Jordan
This was a decent article with a quick breakdown of the bills proposed at the Utah legislature.


here are some I found interesting:
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Cody

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Gastown
I've sworn to not get into political discussions/debates online anymore, but am I the only one who feels the Trump trial is a fully staged marketing stunt? Nothing is going to happen to him more than a slap on the wrist. People have sent a supposed billionaire money to help his defense, and all of his followers are just getting riled up in his favor prior to the election cycle as it further pushes his marketing image of Trump vs the establishment/system.

It just seems to be the literal best possible thing he could do right now. I'd say no man has been more effective at using mass media to his advantage, and in that I'd say he's a brass-balled genius.
 

Herzog

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Wydaho
I've sworn to not get into political discussions/debates online anymore, but am I the only one who feels the Trump trial is a fully staged marketing stunt? Nothing is going to happen to him more than a slap on the wrist. People have sent a supposed billionaire money to help his defense, and all of his followers are just getting riled up in his favor prior to the election cycle as it further pushes his marketing image of Trump vs the establishment/system.

It just seems to be the literal best possible thing he could do right now. I'd say no man has been more effective at using mass media to his advantage, and in that I'd say he's a brass-balled genius.
Nope, you're not the only one. It's a pretty odd thing.
 

Cody

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I think it's totally politically motivated....but in Trump's favor. He's against the system, but it's the system that enables him and people like him (politicians and rich businesses/business folk) to slide through things like this and come out the other side more powerful.

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, because this just feels too obvious. I do think that people don't apply the same standards to "their" person though. Trump is "anti establishment", but he IS the establishment. He's a powerful, rich, old white man that wants to be the one that makes the rules that won't even apply to him anyway.

I would agree that much of his economic policy was decent. But my opinions on his social policy have worn out their welcome here ;)
 

anderson750

I'm working on it Rose
Location
Price, Utah
I think it's totally politically motivated....but in Trump's favor. He's against the system, but it's the system that enables him and people like him (politicians and rich businesses/business folk) to slide through things like this and come out the other side more powerful.

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy, because this just feels too obvious. I do think that people don't apply the same standards to "their" person though. Trump is "anti establishment", but he IS the establishment. He's a powerful, rich, old white man that wants to be the one that makes the rules that won't even apply to him anyway.

I would agree that much of his economic policy was decent. But my opinions on his social policy have worn out their welcome here ;)
He is part of the powerful business establishment who has used the tax codes and his influence to his advantage to grow his businesses. Being a business owner has financial risk. He is not part of the DC political establishment who uses their influence to grow their personal wealth through influence with no financial risk.
 

jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
Location
So Jo, Ut
I don't and won't fault anyone for wanting to or actually making money.
No one starts a business hoping it will fail.

I even hope the greedy, profit hungry, corporation owning Cody makes millions selling the devils drink.

Anyone who cries foul over trump using the tax code as written is silly. Its literally the LAW he is following.
And NO ONE EVER has said, 'no deductions for me please, I'd like to pay more in taxes'.
 
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