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bobdog

4x4 Addict!
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Sandy
ryslc said:
the reason there is negativity towards you is a lot of us have invested years and probably over $100000.00(at least) in this sport knowing that we love it.
we all hope it will grow into a motorsport with a lot of spectators and sponsors.
when we hear of some assholes saying that $13($15 less $2 discount coupon) is too much....well screw you pal! when because of uroc, public awareness of what we do helps to open trails and grows the sport enough to where you can make a living at it.....sorry you should sell your **** and go hiking!
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Your out of line. He is not an asshole. And second there is much debate about whether awareness of the sport actually leads to trail closures.
 
Caleb

Caleb

Well-Known Member
Location
Riverton
ryslc said:
I was not being negative toward you gentlemen BUT, you have turned this negative towards me. I have supported this sport for quite sometime. But it seems that I voice my opinion towards the price of the tickets and automaticly I am label an anti whatever.





the reason there is negativity towards you is a lot of us have invested years and probably over $100000.00(at least) in this sport knowing that we love it.
we all hope it will grow into a motorsport with a lot of spectators and sponsors.
when we hear of some assholes saying that $13($15 less $2 discount coupon) is too much....well screw you pal! when because of uroc, public awareness of what we do helps to open trails and grows the sport enough to where you can make a living at it.....sorry you should sell your **** and go hiking!
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I understand you are passionate about this but to go off like this is just childish...I am willing to bet I have put more hours into UROC (not your team but into the actual organization) than you have for just about NOTHING in return and I too think $13 is a little steep...I will still go for a day or two but not because I think my ticket sales will make the sport grow to be a Nascar event but simply cause I like to go watch some of my buddies run...the big names (for now) like Walker, Bundrant, Jordan, Paule, etc do nothing for me...I would rather watch a team that has really WORKED for their buggy and built it themselves and had to try many combos over time to get it so it works well than watch any of the above that spend a little time on their rigs (minus Paule) and let their pit crews do the rest of the work...I am sure you can relate to the feeling of what I am getting at;)

As far as closures go, At this point, with UROC not donating to USA-All(sp?), U4WDA, Blue Ribbon, etc like they used to (atleast not to my knowledge, please correct me if I am wrong) I think they are HURTING the sport as we know it. Getting as many people out seeing the event as whats possible is going to put a huge strain on resources (both wildlife resources and law enforcement). I can see a lot of Tom Dick and Harrys that saw them do this or that at Supercrawl so they are gonna try it, much more people going off trails and such...so without the resources of educating these new comers its really going to hurt things...just my take on things and I know its mostly just ramblings:D
 
James K

James K

NO, I'm always like this
Location
Taylorsville, Ut
Supergper said:
I understand you are passionate about this but to go off like this is just childish...I am willing to bet I have put more hours into UROC (not your team but into the actual organization) than you have for just about NOTHING in return and I too think $13 is a little steep...I will still go for a day or two but not because I think my ticket sales will make the sport grow to be a Nascar event but simply cause I like to go watch some of my buddies run...the big names (for now) like Walker, Bundrant, Jordan, Paule, etc do nothing for me...I would rather watch a team that has really WORKED for their buggy and built it themselves and had to try many combos over time to get it so it works well than watch any of the above that spend a little time on their rigs (minus Paule) and let their pit crews do the rest of the work...I am sure you can relate to the feeling of what I am getting at;)

As far as closures go, At this point, with UROC not donating to USA-All(sp?), U4WDA, Blue Ribbon, etc like they used to (atleast not to my knowledge, please correct me if I am wrong) I think they are HURTING the sport as we know it. Getting as many people out seeing the event as whats possible is going to put a huge strain on resources (both wildlife resources and law enforcement). I can see a lot of Tom Dick and Harrys that saw them do this or that at Supercrawl so they are gonna try it, much more people going off trails and such...so without the resources of educating these new comers its really going to hurt things...just my take on things and I know its mostly just ramblings:D
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NICE :D
 
cruiseroutfit

cruiseroutfit

Cruizah!
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Sandy, Ut
Wow, what a read... :eek:

My take on the whole deal...

Business is business... I would be willing to bet that the UROC crew still lost money on the event (with respect to ticket sales). If they could afford to sell tickets for $5, then they would I'm sure.

I had alot of freinds come out and watch the event, some are involved in wheeling, others just wanted to see a show. I didn't hear a single complaint regarding the event... after seeing how well it turned out, I would personally pay $15 to go watch again in a heartbeat...

UROC does help out groups like U4WDA & Usa-All, not in cash donations, but in free booths (both the U4WDA & Usa-All had booths). We were happy they allowed us to be there, and we made ALOT of good contacts with both the industry (vendors, etc) as well as prospective members. Our main goal is publicity, name recognition and pleased members. SUWA has us beat in $$$ and numbers, therefor we will take any help we can get.

I addition to the free booth, UROC also assisted in brokering the deal between Tom Woods freebie truck and the U4WDA, a deal that we needed badly.

All aspects of the 4x4 sport are inter-related... you can dismiss one, without harming the other... I'm not saying that your a bad person for not attending, quite the opposite, your free to choose when/where you spend your money. But think about the "Big Picture" in regards to the sport, you think the UROC markup is nearly that of ture companies, lift companies, Moab hotels, fast food joints, GAS, etc... So why no public outcry and boycott?

Pick your battles... :D
 
James K

James K

NO, I'm always like this
Location
Taylorsville, Ut
Pssssssst

James K said:
those prices are outrageous for a per day price.
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this was my comment, that started this retarded dicussion.

do you see anywhere in that that it said I was not going to go to the event...........NO.

It was merely a comment. I had every intention of going( at least for one day). But the more some of you crybabies ***** the more it makes no sense to go. Why don't you try representing the sport as a professional instead of some wiseass punk. You do realize it is all in how you are precieved. You don't like what I said TOUGH, get over it, move on.

ryslc: you just keep bringing the childish fight to the table that is exactly the image the sport needs. You want to beat a dead horse(you seem to be good at it) then keep your little kid comments going. You are only losing the respect of people by being that way.

done with ya, you can drive thru now.




edit; so can ya sense sarcasm on the internet................because all my post have been LOADED with it.
 
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ryslc

ryslc

car audio guy
Location
the innernet
drive thru now huh? You and Brandon Buds Huh? Guess what? You can kiss my As$. If you think that $13 Dollars is expensive... you need to leave JamesK land and open your clouded eyes you anarchy lovin' confused clown flat top lovin' piece of sh!t. Welcome to life in the real world... BUD.
 
James K

James K

NO, I'm always like this
Location
Taylorsville, Ut
ryslc said:
drive thru now huh? You and Brandon Buds Huh? Guess what? You can kiss my As$. If you think that $13 Dollars is expensive... you need to leave JamesK land and open your clouded eyes you anarchy lovin' confused clown flat top lovin' piece of sh!t. Welcome to life in the real world... BUD.
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well BUD.............who is this Brandon you speak of???????

You are killing me the more you type the more foolish you look :rofl:
 
RockMonkey

RockMonkey

Suddenly Enthusiastic
Keep it civil, ryslc. -_- That last comment was over the line. I'm still pondering deleting it. Play nice. ;)
 
ryslc

ryslc

car audio guy
Location
the innernet
James K said:
well BUD.............who is this Brandon you speak of???????

You are killing me the more you type the more foolish you look :rofl:
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no worries BUD... I hope to see you soon. Just relax a bit, I've yet to see or hear of you actually 4-wheel... remember... Wendy's is less than $13 Dollars... hope to see you purchase a value meal soon. :rofl:
 
James K

James K

NO, I'm always like this
Location
Taylorsville, Ut
ryslc said:
no worries BUD... I hope to see you soon. Just relax a bit, I've yet to see or hear of you actually 4-wheel... remember... Wendy's is less than $13 Dollars... hope to see you purchase a value meal soon. :rofl:
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it just keeps getting better, the wit is just overwhelming, stop I can't take it :rolleyes:

Just because I don't wheel with you don't mean I don't wheel :D

[idea]...........maybe I'll go watch the "Reliance" dvd again so I can see how cool you really are ;) :rofl:
 
ryslc

ryslc

car audio guy
Location
the innernet
James K said:
it just keeps getting better, the wit is just overwhelming, stop I can't take it :rolleyes:

Just because I don't wheel with you don't mean I don't wheel :D

[idea]...........maybe I'll go watch the "Reliance" dvd again so I can see how cool you really are ;) :rofl:
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Again, all I have to say is I can't wait to run in to you... no worries... I'll cover the introduction drama... can't wait...

Don't you drive a Comando?
 
James K

James K

NO, I'm always like this
Location
Taylorsville, Ut
ryslc said:
Again, all I have to say is I can't wait to run in to you... no worries... I'll cover the introduction drama... can't wait...

Don't you drive a Comando?
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nope. its a jeepster.


are you making threats? :D
 
Hickey

Hickey

Burn-barrel enthusiast
Supporting Member
Location
Grantsville, Utah
Here's a pic of Jimmy's Jeepster. He was at the Magna Show and Shine pimpin' it.
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