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sawtooth4x4

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Time to do something about the tires rubbing up front. Its become annoying. I can't figure what they are rubbing, but i think the front springs have sagged a little bit.

I ordered some Old Man Emu 766 springs from Cruiser Outfitters in Sandy. I picked them up yesterday and started installing them. They look to be about 1" taller when unsprung next to the old one.
 

sawtooth4x4

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New Bling for the front! I also had a set of new Bilstien 5125's I was going to use in the back, but they are too long. They are the exact same ones i originally used up front. So i decided to dust off the boxes and install them on the front.

My old springs would fall out everytime I flexed the suspension to far and i had to retain them up front.

I had to actually compress these springs to get them into the spring cups. I don't think they will fall out. I should have about an extra inch of lift.

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sLcREX

Formerly Maldito X
Location
Utah
Nice! Might've missed it on a previous post, but are those retreads?


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just saw saw they are. How do you like them? I saw the first set you said lost air, but otherwise pretty good? Do they ride smooth and flex ok when aired down? I've been curious about them. Although they keep raising their prices on them.
 
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Troop92

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Location
Layton, UT
Nice! Might've missed it on a previous post, but are those retreads?


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just saw saw they are. How do you like them? I saw the first set you said lost air, but otherwise pretty good? Do they ride smooth and flex ok when aired down? I've been curious about them. Although they keep raising their prices on them.

I just noticed that we have the same tires, sawtooth. Mine are 265/75-16, love them. I've put about 6k miles or so on them with Trooper, and have had them in most conditions (rocks, mud, snow, ice, dirt trails) and they've always been up to the task. They ride smooth, balance easily, and have a nice hum to them. I haven't aired down.... have you?
 

sawtooth4x4

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They are pretty loud, with the window down. The cab is pretty well sound proofed through. the carpet is about 1.5" thick with the pad.

I've aired mine down once or twice without problems. I probably have about 7000 miles on mine so far. they last a really long time.

So far I've mostly used them in the North Dakota mud and sand, and they were awesome. I'll be trying them on some slick rock this weekend Can't wait!
 

sawtooth4x4

Totally Awesome
No the old springs are Old Man Emu

They were just a little to short to clear the 33 inch tires without doing more body surgury.

The old ones work on almost anything Land Rover. They add about 2" of lift and are Heavy Duty rated for bumpers and winches. I even have the old shocks which are Bilstien 5125. If anyone is interested, I'd rather sell them then have them sit around on my shelf for years to come.
 

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
I like what you've done with this rig. I'm not very familiar with the range rover lineup. I know they have a reputation for frequent, expensive, and difficult repairs. Has that been your experience? Are some years better than others?

I think these rigs make a fantastic do it all rig if they're reliable and won't leave you stranded 100s of miles from home. I think you have a great balance between streetability and capability.
 

sawtooth4x4

Totally Awesome
How to make a Range Rover reliable?


  • Throw away the Air suspension better known as EAS (electronic air suspension
  • Never ever overheat the engine
  • Keep the fluids topped up
  • Change the fluids regularly according to the service manual
  • Work on it yourself, never trust anyone else to work on it unless they are like me. Anal and know how to work on it.
  • Replace things before they completely break.
  • Use regular low grade gas, no matter what anyone says, this is an engine designed in the 1950's and couldn't give a crap as long as it burns.
  • If there is a coolant leak, fix it ASAP
  • Use whatever oils you like, DINO or Synthetic. I like synthetic because I don't have to change my oil every month.
  • Drive it, The worst thing you can do to any European car is let it sit in the garage. Its meant to be driven.

Realize this is not going to be a hard-core rock crawler. This is an extremely capable adventure vehicle. Smart upgrades will make it very capable.

Some parts can be expensive. But if you are resourceful you can find deals, and it really won't cost you much more then running a Toyota.

The most expensive items I have had to replace are:

  • Radiator $350
  • Underhood Fuse Box $250
  • Windshield $1100 (replaced 3 times now by insurance, so total cost to me $300)
  • Heater Blend Motors $450 (found some on eBay for $80 used, slapped them in and now i have heat or AC whenever I want)
  • Heater Core $350 (found an Audi Heater core that fit with some minor modifications to hoses and some trimming. It'll never leak again and cost me $100 to convert)
  • Fuel Injectors $1200 (found a part number reference that a Ford Escort used the same injectors. Found 8 on eBay with the right part number rebuilt for $125)

I bought it with 89K miles on it. and now 3.5 years later i have almost 140K miles on it. It burns about .5 quarts of oil over a 10000 mile oil change.

These trucks are built well. Very strong frame and very strong axles. The suspension has very good travel with longer shocks and removal of the front swaybar. You can buy poly-bushings for the radius arms that will help the suspension flex even more. I'm running these in the front.

I think the 2nd gen of my vehicle model is the best 1999-2002. It has Bosch fuel management, more horsepower, better economy and better torque ratings. The transmissions are better in my model as well, stronger then the older versions. Towing capacity is about 7500 lbs. I've towed 10K without much issue, other then it goes a little slower up hills.

I have not added any armor other then welding some plate over the front diff cover. That way I can bash that into rocks and not worry about putting a hole in it.

There is a fair amount of parts out there. but you have to do some research if you want to do custom stuff like I have. Not a lot of people use the spring and shock combo that I use. But I prefer the extra load capacity and a little firmer ride on the interstate.
 

sawtooth4x4

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Here is my list of upgrades:

  • New heated seat inserts, non-factory dual temps
  • HID Low Beam Bulbs 4300 color, very nice white color
  • 24 inch LED Light Bar, Chinese eBay thing
  • Rough County 9500# winch (wireless, synthetic rope)
  • Old Man Emu HD Springs Front and Rear (about 3" of Lift)
  • Bilstien 5125 Shocks 10" Travel 255/75 valving
  • Synthetic Fluids
  • Ceramic Brake Pads
  • Heated Winshield (when I bought it, it had a cheap non-heated version, so worth the money, no scraping the windshield. its usually meltd within 2 minutes of turning it on)
  • Reverse Light 55 watt
  • Sony Headunit with iPod Integration
  • 10" Subwoofer
  • 400 Watt amp
  • Stock Harman Kardon Speakers (10)
  • Pro-Comp Rock Crawler wheels, Made for a Land Rovers
  • Treadwright 285/75/16 Gaurd Dog Bead to Bead Retreads Load range D
  • front fender-flares made to fit from a Nissan Frontier

My future plans are:

  • Purchase some 16" Land Rover Discover aluminum wheels (5)
  • 4.10 gears
  • Rear ARB locker
  • Build some bumpers or a roof rack
  • New Front Drive-shaft
  • Maybe a transmission rebuild at some point, its been shifting a little funny, but I'm going to service it this week and see if that helps it.
  • New ball joints and tie rod ends
  • New steering Stabilizer
  • Cargo Barrier
  • On Board Air utilizing the stock air tank
  • Home brew snorkle
 
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