Jesser04
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Sweet feathery Jesus... You should write a book wheeling for dummies.
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Tips and techniques for new wheelers
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Sweet feathery Jesus... You should write a book wheeling for dummies.
iamsparticus
Take your Rig to the Edge
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- Ogden,Ut
Yeah but sometimes in videos its hard to see all that was going on like, throttle, and if the guy was trying to steer but was just to late. I agree youtube videos can help but they can also decieve. I think learning your own rig is the best way to avoid roll overs. For instance when i was in moab i had my rig so side ways my bro in law could touch the ground out his window but i wasnt tipping or even starting to, other rigs would of flopped way before they got there.
But i knew my rig and i was comfortable with what it could do
But i knew my rig and i was comfortable with what it could do
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sixstringsteve
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but I learned everything I know about wheeling from youtube and forums. I haven't actually been out on the trail yet, but when I do get out there, I'll be the expert 
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iamsparticus
Take your Rig to the Edge
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but I learned everything I know about wheeling from youtube and forums. I haven't actually been out on the trail yet, but when I do get out there, I'll be the expert
exactly
TJDukit
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- Clearfield
No problem, Billavista has some pretty awesome tech articles.
I really like the direction you are taking these two threads. Not too many places that put a lot of focus on noobs and actually trying to help them. I think land use should be hit on pretty hard, too many people just ignore it.
sixstringsteve
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I personally don't know enough about land use to be a subject matter expert, but I agree. I know I need to learn more about land use as well.
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- Sandy, Ut
TJDukit
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- Clearfield
I'd be willing to bet JackJoh will chime in at some point, I know he is always using land use links in the newbie intro's.
Jesser04
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- Kaysville Utah
How about a section on forward and reverse? Also don't forget the all important left and right.
sixstringsteve
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good idea jesser.
TJDukit
I.Y.A.A.Y.A.S.
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- Clearfield
Terms to use like "driver" and "passenger" instead of the confusing "left" and "right" I hate it when a person is spotting me and the use "left" and "right"
Actually I've only ever had one good spotter. Last time out with one of my friends I had to just ignore him because he sucks at spotting and doesn't know that I actually have an idea of what I am doing.
Actually I've only ever had one good spotter. Last time out with one of my friends I had to just ignore him because he sucks at spotting and doesn't know that I actually have an idea of what I am doing.
sixstringsteve
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yeah, I'd like to add enough info on following your spotter. And even on how to spot. I don't want a ton of noobs spotting me, but inevitably there are going to be situations where you'll need to rely on a noob to spot.
iamsparticus
Take your Rig to the Edge
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noob spotting:guilty::guilty:
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- Sandy, Ut
Steve, I love the enthusiasm... we just need to help you harness it into a format that is useful and capturing to the audience your attempting to enlighten. While this thread undoubtedly already has some beating their heads against a wall, I think it will work great as a repository for links and videos that can later be used in a cleanly formatted lesson plan of sorts. As it stands now your going to lose the majority of your audience in the first page let alone the inevitable 20 that this will become
Much of the practical and important skills of off-road driving are best taught in person, not so much on the trail as at the trail head or lunch spot allowing users a hands on approach to things like spotting, recovery, tire placement, etc. The only thing more dangerous than someone that doesn't know how to use a winch, is someone that thinks they know how to use a winch
Likewise the Tread Lightly awareness class is best done in a classroom or 'around the fire' format as it too relies on a captive and interactive audience.
We have bounced around the idea of a 'newbie' day in the past, not a single night run with a limited window of opportunity (don't get me wrong the night run is an excellent start) but a full-day situation with 5-6 different module, each with a different 'expert' in that field of training. We batted it around with the moderators a bit and while everyone thought it was a good idea, we didn't have the manpower or enthusiasm to pull it off. Enter turbo-Steve
I propose we find a suitable Saturday later in the spring/summer and host said class. 5 Mile Pass, the Miller Motorsports Off-Road Park, AF Canyon or another outdoor yet reasonably close location. Could be free, could be cost enough to cover materials or it could have a small fee that is donated to Tread lightly or U4 for example.
I've got a lesson plan I've used for similar classes, I've spent 2-3 hours alone covering recovery gear in brief for example. It could easily be trimmed up to say 1.5 hours. The Tread Lightly awareness class is a 1 hour class and we have at least 3 trainers including myself here on RME that we could get to help. Each additional module could be an hour or two, and groups of 5-10 could rotate through them. RME is packed full of experience folks, professional rock-crawlers, land use experts, etc. We just need to assemble the A-Team and make it happen.
If your willing to take lead on this I would give you all my support and resources to help make it happen. I just don't have the time (and enthusiasm) that you have.
Much of the practical and important skills of off-road driving are best taught in person, not so much on the trail as at the trail head or lunch spot allowing users a hands on approach to things like spotting, recovery, tire placement, etc. The only thing more dangerous than someone that doesn't know how to use a winch, is someone that thinks they know how to use a winch
Likewise the Tread Lightly awareness class is best done in a classroom or 'around the fire' format as it too relies on a captive and interactive audience.
We have bounced around the idea of a 'newbie' day in the past, not a single night run with a limited window of opportunity (don't get me wrong the night run is an excellent start) but a full-day situation with 5-6 different module, each with a different 'expert' in that field of training. We batted it around with the moderators a bit and while everyone thought it was a good idea, we didn't have the manpower or enthusiasm to pull it off. Enter turbo-Steve
I propose we find a suitable Saturday later in the spring/summer and host said class. 5 Mile Pass, the Miller Motorsports Off-Road Park, AF Canyon or another outdoor yet reasonably close location. Could be free, could be cost enough to cover materials or it could have a small fee that is donated to Tread lightly or U4 for example.
I've got a lesson plan I've used for similar classes, I've spent 2-3 hours alone covering recovery gear in brief for example. It could easily be trimmed up to say 1.5 hours. The Tread Lightly awareness class is a 1 hour class and we have at least 3 trainers including myself here on RME that we could get to help. Each additional module could be an hour or two, and groups of 5-10 could rotate through them. RME is packed full of experience folks, professional rock-crawlers, land use experts, etc. We just need to assemble the A-Team and make it happen.
If your willing to take lead on this I would give you all my support and resources to help make it happen. I just don't have the time (and enthusiasm) that you have.
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iamsparticus
Take your Rig to the Edge
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i like it kurt its what noobs need
sixstringsteve
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Kurt, I understand and agree. Thanks for the feedback
I don't know how much enthusiasm I have left. I'm afraid the night run is going to burn me out and I won't have anything left. We'll see how this noob night run goes and if there's even a need.
I agree though. This definitely isn't the best way to teach the material. I guess I'm just trying to reach the guys that won't make the effort to come out to a day-long training. Not that it isn't a good idea, but with this new up-and-coming generation (of which I belong), a lot of people don't take the initiative that previous generations do; they want the easy button. While I don't pretend to make someone an expert, I do hope the clips/links will get people thinking.
But I appreciate the constructive feedback. I'll keep trying stuff and learning what works and go from there. This thread will just be used as an outline/plan for whatever training I do end up creating. i don't expect or want any noobs to get past the first page.
I don't know how much enthusiasm I have left. I'm afraid the night run is going to burn me out and I won't have anything left. We'll see how this noob night run goes and if there's even a need.
I agree though. This definitely isn't the best way to teach the material. I guess I'm just trying to reach the guys that won't make the effort to come out to a day-long training. Not that it isn't a good idea, but with this new up-and-coming generation (of which I belong), a lot of people don't take the initiative that previous generations do; they want the easy button. While I don't pretend to make someone an expert, I do hope the clips/links will get people thinking.
But I appreciate the constructive feedback. I'll keep trying stuff and learning what works and go from there. This thread will just be used as an outline/plan for whatever training I do end up creating. i don't expect or want any noobs to get past the first page.
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sixstringsteve
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I'd really love the ability to build a wiki for it, but I can't find that feature in RME. So I guess I'll keep working with the tools I have.
airmanwilliams
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- Provo, Utah
iamsparticus
Take your Rig to the Edge
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- Ogden,Ut
lol come on man let me spot ya on the trail
okay but i cant promise i will listen
