Tow Rig ?

If you have a 2' dovetail, you won't have any problem with weight on the front axle. Scooting the buggy back just a hair so the rear axle is right in the middle of the buggy puts the front axle loading around 375 lbs.

How you gonna do a trailer hitch with a 2' dovetail?
 

Bucking Bronco

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If you have a 2' dovetail, you won't have any problem with weight on the front axle. Scooting the buggy back just a hair so the rear axle is right in the middle of the buggy puts the front axle loading around 375 lbs.

How you gonna do a trailer hitch with a 2' dovetail?

I am not sure the truck does not have a receiver on it so I was thinking just extending something off of the step that is there that looks to accept a ball and then up to the dovetail

But I'm not sure yet. suggestions welcome

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mbryson

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I think 2wd will be ok 99% of the time but ya I imagine there will be times when I will be going slow but if I ever get stuck hopefully I have the buggy.


The flatbed wrecker I drove was 2WD (and at least 40' long :rolleyes: ). It did ok in the winter with some decent traction tires in the rear. Beware if you have some Yokahoma mileage masters on there. You had to plan ahead a little, but it should be fine except for a few days a year. For your intended use, I'd not be super afraid of a 2WD.
 

Bucking Bronco

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Considering I have an open buggy I don't plan on too many trips where it would be that bad but you never know when a storm will come in and screw up your plans
 

Kiel

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KC Beach has or at least used to have a older ford truck coverted to a flatbed to tow is jeep like that. It was something like a 1975 with matching paint to the jeep, looked pretty cool.
 

Bucking Bronco

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KC Beach has or at least used to have a older ford truck coverted to a flatbed to tow is jeep like that. It was something like a 1975 with matching paint to the jeep, looked pretty cool.

I was kinda thinking along those lines if I bought the 95 that has the yellow paint on the door. I was thinking about spraying the cab olive green and everything else flat black.

I would like to see how he did the bed though

The guy with the 95 emailed me and said he would take $1900.00 for it so I don't know what I am doing now.
 

Bart

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If I put the buggy on that truck having most the weight on the buggys front tires and the front tires almost in the center of the chassis do you think that would transfer too much weight to the front axle, or would the rear tires being so far back even it out?

Or you could just back the buggy on. I'm wondering why you want to add a dove tail at all. In fact wouldn't need to run your ramps all the way to the top of the bed. They be fine a few inches down. We are talking about a buggy after all.
 
I was thinking the same thing about the ramps.

Backing it on, assuming the f/r weights above, would lighten the front by 150 lbs (or more). Not a route I'd go especially if I was gonna tow. On that truck, every 4 lbs you put on the trailer hitch lightens the front by 1 lb, so if you had a trailer with 1000 tongue weight, and the buggy loaded centered over the rear axle, the net result on the front axle would be +125 lbs (+/- 50 lbs), hardly noticeable.
 

Bucking Bronco

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I don't really want to add a dovetail, but I think I would rather do that then just add 2' to it.

Another thing I am considering and it would depend on how strong the back of the flat bed is built, but I was thinking of adding a easily removable extension on the back. using receiver tubes.

My reasoning for this idea is I would not have to move the lights and I could probably still tow my travel trailer with just an extension in a receiver hitch

Here is a very crude rendition of what I was thinking It would be hinged in the center so the ramps would be connected for easy loading I would build one for each side about 16" wide and the actual 2.5" receiver tube that I would weld into the bed would run at least 3 feet into the bed so it could handle the weight when loading and unloading

I just don't know if the 2x2 tube coming out of the receivers could handle the weight

Is this just a bad idea, should I just extend the whole bed.
 

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Corban_White

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...and I could probably still tow my travel trailer with just an extension in a receiver hitch

IMO this is a bad idea.

I just don't know if the 2x2 tube coming out of the receivers could handle the weight

But this is a good one. Using Brett's numbers above puts 1200 lbs on the rear, 600 per tire, meaning 300 per 2x2x1/4 receiver tube. Even at 2 ft extension it should handle much more weight than that.
 

Bucking Bronco

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IMO this is a bad idea.



But this is a good one. Using Brett's numbers above puts 1200 lbs on the rear, 600 per tire, meaning 300 per 2x2x1/4 receiver tube. Even at 2 ft extension it should handle much more weight than that.

I am more concerned with the weight that will be applied to the tube when loading and unloading.
 

Corban_White

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Should still be fine. I believe you said 5 foot ramps above which would never put all the tires on the ramps/dovetail at a time so the most they would see would be the front axle. which I believe was double the rear using Brett's numbers? that is still only 600 lbs each out 2 ft. That tubing should have no problem handling much more than that. In all probability it will see more load with the back tires sitting on it driving down the freeway. Dynamic loading>static loading.
 

Bucking Bronco

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Well I picked up this today. It has the dreaded V-10 but it has the manual trans and 488 gears. It is a 2001 F-450 with a payload capacity of over 8500lbs so it should handle the weight of the buggy and a trailer with no problems.

I am going to get to work on building a detachable dove tail for the bed so the buggy will fit. I hope to get it completed within a few weeks
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