Stephen If you are patient and watch KSL.com frequently you can find deals. They go FAST so you gotta be on it, it's kinda the luck of the draw if you are online when they are posted. I got a 10/22 2 years ago there for $90 it had been online for 7 min, I immediatly left work and when I met him he said since I had talked to him he'd had about 100 calls, some offering him more money. They are fun you can make them into anything you want. This is my first firearm I bought it when I turned 18, mod'd it a couple years ago and is my favorite one to shoot.