Vintage License Plates

[ricsrx]

I interpret it to mean that as long as you're driving recreationally and occasionally (not daily like some people who we won't name but their name starts with r and ends with ick), then you're ok.

I fully intend to stop driving it when
the weather gets bad....I occasionally drive it to work on the day's
that it is raining....I ride my bike the rest of the day's....
am I still legal?.....I am planing on fixing the list of items that were
discussed...

Kevin you are just jealous of me

 

[blznnp]

I have vintage plates on my camaro. I don't drive it daily. I usually drive it only when it's not raining out and I don't have any kids with me, which makes it so I don't drive it much. I would like to drive it as much as I can, but I know I won't be able to do it much , especially once winter comes. But the plate works good for me. If I drive it more than I plan on, then next year I will probably just register it normally

 

[Kevin B.]

Kevin you are just jealous of me

That's a fact, Jack. You're my hero.

 

[UNSTUCK]

All a matter of having the right connections.

Ahhh, I didn't notice before.

 

[jeeper]

It wouldn't be hard to add a mileage requirement.. Say under 10k miles a year. That's plenty liberal for a real vintage user, and would weed out the daily drivers.

 

[lhracing]

As previously posted the law states: "This plate identifies a vehicle at least 30 years old, is primarily a collector's item, and used for participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses, but is not used for general daily transportation."

I believe the intent of the law was for show and collectors cars that see limited on road use. I have a vintage plate on a car and it is driven less than 500 miles a year.

 

[ricsrx]

I would easily fall under the 500 a year

 

[benjy]

It wouldn't be hard to add a mileage requirement.. Say under 10k miles a year. That's plenty liberal for a real vintage user, and would weed out the daily drivers.

I agree, but 10k is probably in excess of the intent

I have a decent commute from Saratoga into Orem (40 miles roundtrip), work an average of 245 days/year = 9,800 miles

 

[jeeper]

I said it was a liberal amount.. I was thinking more like 5k, but any one that takes their classic car on one of those cruise America tours would cross 5k.

 

[Cherokeester]

What's the point of this thread? I have a vintage plate on my CJ. LEOs don't look for violations of these plates. Why are you all worried? And why are you suggesting changing the laws, leave it alone. Has anyone ever been ticketed or even talked to about them? If it isn't broken don't try to fix it and don't call attention to it, that's my suggestion.

 

[jeeper]

What's the point of this thread? I have a vintage plate on my CJ. LEOs don't look for violations of these plates. Why are you all worried? And why are you suggesting changing the laws, leave it alone. Has anyone ever been ticketed or even talked to about them? If it isn't broken don't try to fix it and don't call attention to it, that's my suggestion.

The point is that the vintage plates are a special blessing to some of us.. But people who abuse the plates will cause the rest of us to lose the opportunity to have them. It's the same basic selfish thinking that goes on with many things.. like land abuse, gun rights, etc.

 

[skeptic]

The point is that the vintage plates are a special blessing to some of us.. But people who abuse the plates will cause the rest of us to lose the opportunity to have them. It's the same basic selfish thinking that goes on with many things.. like land abuse, gun rights, etc.

This. My '81 Corvette is back up and running after almost 3 years being down with part of the interior out. When it's running like it is now, it spends a good 8 months sitting in the garage connected to a trickle charger. Come spring, it's time to run a couple tanks of gas through it, engine cleaner, then deal with smog and safety emissions. All for a couple months of driving in early/late summer (I rarely drive it when it's over 90*). If I ever get the overheating issue worked out on my '77 Celica it will be the same, although I'll probably drive it more in the heat of the summer.

IMHO, anything over 30 years old should be exempt from emissions, engine swap rules, etc. like many/most other states. Vintage plates that allow casual driving is the next best thing.

 

[BCGPER]

Agreed, my 72 Blazer has been to my work twice in 4 years. Otherwise, it's a spin around the block or to a cruise night. You know what? I don't have vintage plates.

Time to get this law changed. From what I'm seeing in this, most everyone running these plates are just abusing the intent of them.


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[Bart]

I don't think everyone is abusing them, but a fair amount are. I'm putting them on my Heep if I ever get it running, and it will see very limited street use.

 

[Kevin B.]

My '85 will be eligible next year, and I'm definitely going to apply for vintage plates. My truck will hopefully see pavement way more than hot rod that only comes out for parades and car shows, but it won't be a daily driver. I believe that's within the spirit of the vintage plates.

 

[BCGPER]

From the state:

This plate identifies a vehicle at least 30 years old, is primarily a collector's item, and used for participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses, but is not used for general daily transportation. This plate may be personalized with up to 5 alphanumeric characters by submitting Form TC-817 with the required personalization fee. A vintage vehicle, as defined in Utah Code 41-21-1, qualifies for an exemption from safety and emission inspections

So explain to me what makes your Toy or Bart's Jeep a collector item? The majority of vehicles I see with these plates now are old shitboxes. If I'm seeing it, do you really think the cops aren't? Get the plates and enjoy them while you can, I can see this law being changed in a hurry.

 

[Kevin B.]

You may think my rusty pile is a shitbox (and I wouldn't blame you if you did), but if it isn't collectible, why are market rates for old Toyotas (and Jeeps too, I'm sure) going up? The fact that my resto-mods aren't for dragracing or winning car shows certainly doesn't make it any less vintage, does it? It IS vintage, and it is collectible, and I don't see a difference between Joe Q Public taking his 30 year old Buick to a car show or club drive and me taking my 30 year old Toyota to the mountains for a day.

I've said before, I'm in a club. Wheeling is a club activity. I believe I'll be operating within the intent of the State when they issue my plate, and if the law gets changed to discriminate against classic truck owners just because we don't take our junk to car shows, that'll be some bullshit. I agree that abuse of vintage plates is bad, and I'll join you in condemning it. I certainly intend to continue to keep my truck safety compliant even if I'm not subject to yearly inspections. So I don't agree that what Bart or I are talking about doing is abuse of the privilege, and I won't agree until somebody with the DMV or whoever comes out and says "this law doesn't apply to anybody that doesn't enter 4 car shows a year".

 

[BCGPER]

An 85 Toyota is a collectors item now?

Admit it, you're doing it solely to skirt the yearly Safety Inspection. The law allows it, and you'd be a fool not to. But to say you're not abusing the intent of the law is a bit of a stretch.

 

[jeeper]

I've been in Ricks back yard.. And can fully testify that old Toyotas are being 'collected'.

 

[jeeper]

An 85 Toyota is a collectors item now?

Admit it, you're doing it solely to skirt the yearly Safety Inspection. The law allows it, and you'd be a fool not to. But to say you're not abusing the intent of the law is a bit of a stretch.

I've got a 78 ford f250. It has the vintage plates because it can't pass emissions. It is in far worse shape than Kevin's Toyota. I consider it a collector item.. Because it has super deep personal attachment (grandpa who passed last month bought it new) but to any other bloke it's just an old truck.
I haven't driven it in over a year..