what do you think about revolvers?

mesha

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My new jeep has revolver shackles front and rear. I have heard the rears are fine but the front unload. Do they make the jeep more "wandery"? I am trying to decide if they are worth it or not. Do they provide lift over stock? Anyway, opinions please.
 

mbryson

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http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/showthread.php?t=758&highlight=revolver

http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/showthread.php?t=1771&highlight=revolver


Looks like we haven't had a discussion on these for a while. Seems like they've kinda fallen off the face of the earth from what I've seen.


Personally, I don't like the uncontrolled aspect of them. When you most need control (say you're climbing on a waterfall or coming down something steep), they would then 'unload' and at the very least make things interesting.
 

Cody

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They unload when you start bouncing or going up/down large obstacles causing you to loose traction
 

Herzog

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Wydaho
They were pretty revolutionary in their debut and I believe they have their place in certain scenarios, but I think the general consensus on revolvers is that they are more for ramp queens.

You can get a lot of proper flex out of leaf springs without adding in "hacks".
 

mesha

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A.F.
thanks for the search help mbryson. when I searched I got nothing for some reason.
 

Tacoma

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far enough away
I prefer pistols to revolvers, but I'd take either in a tough spot.


Oh. The shackles. I think they're rainbow-colored and unhelpful.
 

Tacoma

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far enough away
No.

Correction: technically a revolver is a pistol, but a pistol is not a revolver. In modern parlance though, pistol is taken to mean a magazine-fed, hand held weapon, either semi-automatic or single-shot, like that Beretta Cougar tip-up barreled thing, rather than a revolving-cylinder gun.
 
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I Lean

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No.

Correction: technically a revolver is a pistol, but a pistol is not a revolver. In modern parlance though, pistol is taken to mean a magazine-fed, hand held weapon, either semi-automatic or single-shot, like that Beretta Cougar tip-up barreled thing, rather than a revolving-cylinder gun.

Gotcha....so when you said "No", technically you meant "Yes". :)
 

ALF

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Taylorsville
They were pretty revolutionary in their debut and I believe they have their place in certain scenarios, but I think the general consensus on revolvers is that they are more for ramp queens.

You can get a lot of proper flex out of leaf springs without adding in "hacks".


So not only am I a ramp queen but I'm a "hack" too-_-

I like mine no complaints so far but then again I never wheeled the Jeep without them and hell...they were free;)
 

rxcarl5

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Location
Centerville,UT
revolvers

I have had a couple of friends that went the revolver route. one of them took them off because on steep climbs it was unloading very bad making the climb feel weird to him. The other buddy just sold his jeep possibly the one you picked up. from the couple of times that he wheeled it he decided that it was time to order some boomerangs and be done with the revolvers. Just my two cents from experience with them on friends rigs.
 

Jay5.9L

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Location
Riverton
My Cj has them front and rear (PO installed them) and they so far have been just fine...no un-loading or wandering at all. I can drive 70 mph on the freeway and its straight as you can expect for a 20 year old Jeep. I think they don't add much if any lift over stock shackles.
 

Herzog

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Wydaho
It seems that they would be at their best in boulder ranges where the extra wheel travel would be beneficial... but when it comes to high traction terrain, I would get a little worried with them.

Maybe a way to lock and unlock them depending on what you are doing?
 

Cody

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My Cj has them front and rear (PO installed them) and they so far have been just fine...no un-loading or wandering at all. I can drive 70 mph on the freeway and its straight as you can expect for a 20 year old Jeep. I think they don't add much if any lift over stock shackles.

Not sure I've heard of anyone comlaining about unusual freeway handling characteristics.

Revolvers give you the same effect as a long arm suspension with no center limiting straps. The axle will unload causing a loss of contact pressure and thus traction. I was lucky enough to campare with and without center limiting straps on the same rig on the same trail on back to back days and it does make a noticable difference on climbs.

Perhaps a center strap would help revolvers too? I guess the only differnce is that unlike coils a revolver isn't exerting downward pressure on the tire as it droops. So I guess that solution wouldn't work.

Cody
 

Meat_

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Lehi
My revolvers work perfectly well, whether they are used on rocks or shot at ramps...


From what I've seen of them on the trail I'm not impressed with them.
 
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