What truck next, the Kevin B. edition.

Kevin B.

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I think the SportTracs are neat. When I had my Explorer I entertained visions of taking it or a SportTrac and putting it on tons, I think that'd make a kickass truggy thing. But those little tiny beds off the back make the truck about useless, you actually lose cargo capacity over the Explorer SUV.
 

AddictedOffroad

The Yota Specialists
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Windsor, CO
I had a Sequoia. It was pretty nice in a lot of respects. But the suspension does not flex very well. The seats were very uncomfortable and there are miles of plastic. I had a 2006, 5 speed auto, SR5 version with leather and the center diff lock. Mine also couldn't tow a car very well. And toyota's version of traction control is garbage. All you have to do is spend a second in a newer Land Rover Discovery or LR3, it'll walk up everything, while the toyota sits there spinning tires.

There was a lot of room though. even with the third row installed. There just isn't any aftermarket support for it. Sure you can get some lift kits, but bumpers and such are non-existent.

The rear latch breaks all the time and the rear window is prone to breaking as well. Changing the timing belt is a pain in the butt. I had so many cuts on my hands it was ridiculous. Why can't toyota smooth the edges of their metal like European cars? Anyway for a mom mobile its great, but for anything else, it seemed limited for what I needed and wanted.

The leather in the Sequoias is pretty firm. I have cloth in mine and they are very comfortable, but they aren't really wide seats. FWIW, I am 6'2" 245lbs. I fit great, and compared to the Yukon XL that we also have, the 2nd row has way more room in the Sequoia. Literally, like 4" more room with the front seats all the way back. And they recline.

The suspension is no different that any Toyota IFS rig out there. It uses the same struts that a 3rd gen 4runner uses. I will admit that the stock ride quality was a little lacking, but mine had 200K on it when I bought it. I swapped in a Toytec Ultimate kit and couldn't be happier with the ride, handling, etc. It rides and handles better than my Yukon XL. And, with the 4.88s, it tows great as well up to around 4000lbs.

The later model traction control systems after 2004 were a nightmare in them. Just like 01-02 4runners were. My Sequoia is a 2001 and I actually like it in the snow. In fact, I would say its the best snow/ice driving vehicle I have ever owned. And, I go through vehicles like Steve does. I just disengage the traction control and VSV once off road anyway. When in 4low it automatically disables it to begin with.

We have recently started producing bumpers for them. I do plan to R&D a rear bumper for it soon as well. Sliders are cake.

It is a similar length to a Tahoe, but its likely a few inches narrower. They have HUGE sunroofs, great climate control systems, and great 4wd systems. The auto's overdrive is pretty tall so they could stand a little taller gearing if you lift it.

And, while a Land Rover may be better offroad, its getting you there and back reliably that is the issue. With anything, its a compromise on what you can live with. I don't use my Sequoia for beating on. I agree that its not built for that. But, getting me back to some fly fishing holes, pulling my boat where my dually is massive overkill, and camping out of its great. I'm not loading 7K on it to tow with it. That is what my tow rig is for. But, for a family hauler, and camping/mild expo rig, its fantastic.
 
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sixstringsteve

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What I'm looking for isn't something for trails, so much, I've got the Bastard for that (or will once I get off my butt and finish it). But the '85 isn't comfy for long long trips and doesn't have room for the whole family plus camping gear.

Honda pilot. It'd be fine on the pony express, fire roads up most canyons, and can haul the family long distances well. Reliable, good mpg. No 4-low, but you don't need 4-low if it isn't for trails.


There's not really a rig out there there that I can afford that can do what I want it to do. Everything is not durable enough or not reliable enough or too big or not big enough or too damned expensive!


There's gotta be something out there that meets your criteria.



I think my perfect truck would be a 60 on 33s with link suspension and a motor swap, maybe an LS or 2UZ or something similarly beefcake. Find me something like that. :D
No need to link it for backcountry use, a 60 with good leafs will do you right.
 

Greg

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Sequoia's aren't build for offroading in mind... if you want to go offroad with a big Toyota SUV, a 100 Series Land Cruiser is a much better option and excels in the dirt. ;)

Far as towing, the 4.7 isn't a big engine... it's not going to tow several thousand pounds without working hard.
 

sawtooth4x4

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I think the 100 series shares quite a bit with the sequoia. Engine, transmission, rear axle. Not sure about the tcase. But the land Cruiser's traction control works much better. I'd buy a land Cruiser if they weren't so over priced,and had a solid front axle.
 

cruiseroutfit

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I think the 100 series shares quite a bit with the sequoia. Engine, transmission, rear axle. Not sure about the tcase. But the land Cruiser's traction control works much better. I'd buy a land Cruiser if they weren't so over priced,and had a solid front axle.

I prefer to think of it as "Buy Once - Cry Once". There is a Toyota Tax and there is certainly a Land Cruiser Tax. You pay it when you buy it, you get it back when you sell. The resale value on Toyota's is pretty wild, works both ways. 100's are in the $6-10k range pretty regularly these days. You're going to get high miles and rougher condition but it's still a Land Cruiser. I've traveled around the world with Land Cruisers and I'd do the same with my 100 that has nearly 200k... no qualms, in fact it's likely headed to South America for a jaunt soon.

Engine is the same model, however the Japan built LC has different (better) internals.

Rear axle is not the same, the 06 & older Sequoia shares the 30 Spline 8.4" axle (widths obviously vary) with the Tacoma, etc. A great axle but not nearly as stout the 32 spline 9.5" Land Cruiser. Likewise the front is the 7.5" versus the 8" in the LC.

Can't argue with the solid axle, if your travel and use dictate a solid axle well, it doesn't have one in the US. That said I can't imagine a use for a 100 Series that dictates a solid axle. They have beefy CV's, tough knuckles, etc. The actually carrier on the 98-00 was 2 spider design and did have failures. Upgrading to a 4-spider or ARB, etc is a far superior option and eliminates the weak link. Other than that they are a big, heavy tank. Fuel mileage is poor but they will haul you and your 7 best pals to the remotes of the world.
 

jeeper

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So Jo, Ut
If a Honda ridgeline would fit the bill, there is a smoking deal on one on ksl that needs some engine work.
 

Kevin B.

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I have a knee-jerk dislike for the Ridgeline. I should get over it, a Ridgeline might be a good fit.
 

DAA

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I had a Subaru Brat way back when and it was a great little car. I always think "damn that's a big Brat" when I see a Ridgeline.

- DAA
 

jeeper

I live my life 1 dumpster at a time
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So Jo, Ut
I have a knee-jerk dislike for the Ridgeline. I should get over it, a Ridgeline might be a good fit.

I'm right there with you!
However, I have a strong belief in 'price fixes everything', and this one seems to be priced right..
Dependent on actual condition of course.
 

frieed

Jeepless in Draper
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Draper, UT
I have a knee-jerk dislike for the Ridgeline.

Same reaction here, it's an SUV with a birth defect, that and I have a problem with a "truck" with a unibody as well.
Towing is 5k, not bad, but I've heard that a weight distributing hitch is not allowed (my truck is limited to 5k without WDH as well).
 

N-Smooth

Smooth Gang Founding Member
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UT
Hey, the Ridgeline won the Baja1000 so it must be decent. My neighbor had one and I was fascinated by the trunk in the bed. He loved it but then again he was totally the type to not have a "real" truck.
 

Kevin B.

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Did you buy a brick nose yet?? :D

That one down in St George is torturing me. I keep telling myself it's sold, and I'm deliberately not looking at that thread again in case I'm wrong.

But no, no bricknose yet. I'm gonna stick it out with the beast I've got until the financial situation is a little better. Unless you decide to sell yours, in which case I'll need a little warning so I can arrange a buyer for my kidney...
 

Kevin B.

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Ok, so tell me why I don't want a V10 Excursion. Almost identical to the F150 I've got in length and width, actually a slightly shorter wheelbase which would be welcome. The V10 is very similar to my 5.4, just bigger. The transmission is the stronger 4R100 vs the 4R70W. The axles are stronger, the front is actually a solid axle on coils instead of this infernal torsion bar suspension that I hate. 3rd row is an option, as is dropping the seats and sleeping in the back, both things I can't do with the Supercrew and it's short bed. The only downside I see is losing the bed, but this pickup bed isn't worthy of the name anyway so no big loss.

So yeah. Take a mileage hit and lose the bed, upgrade everything else. Am I missing anything that would make this rig a bad fit?
 
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