its hogs hallow and if you were adventurous you could of gone up corner canyon. sweet pics. reminds me of when i would take my old xj up there
I'm not trying to pick on anyone, just trying to help inform.
Hog's Hollow trails are 100% illegal to motorized use. You see jeeps, quads, and dirt bikes up there every day. But it's illegal.
Corner canyon is without a doubt illegal to ALL motorized use. There are
many signs saying "no motorized vehicles, $1000 fine." And even though people think "I've never been caught", that's not the point. When we drive dirt bikes, or quads, or side by sides, or jeeps on illegal trails, it gives the image that we don't care about closed trails and we do whatever we want and drive all over wherever we want. Sadly a few people do think like this, but the majority of us are very careful about where we recreate.
there was no signs anywhere saying anything, There was other jeeps up there to. How would you find out if something is closed?
Here is a very common misconception that needs to be fixed. This exact topic was discussed at the Noob Run. If a trail is not marked, you need to
assume it is closed. End of story. I wish every illegal trail had a "no motorized use" sign, or a "no trespassing" sign, but they don't, and they don't have to. As a land user, it is our responsibility to verify that the land we are driving on is legal. Kurt had a great presentation at the Noob Run that outlined the process. Call the BLM (Bureau of Land Managment) or your city offices. They know the areas well, and they are familiar with the areas and whether or not they're legal.
Before I knew better, I used to wheel up there every weekend, so I understand. I thought as long as I didn't see a "no motorized vehicles" sign that it was legal. Now I know better, and I never wheel somewhere unless I am positive that it is legal.
I'm not trying to chastize you, just educate you (and others who have replied to this thread.) We'll be happy to show you where the legal trails are (but I'll respond to that in your other thread). It sounds nit-picky, but we really need to be careful to avoid our image being tainted and to avoid more trail closure. Imagine how terrible it would be if they closed the AF canyon trails to motorized travel. That would be a huge loss. We're working hard to keep our remaining trails open, and verifying that routes are legal prior to using them is the responsible way to recreate.
I look forward to meeting you on the trail.
