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'99 4Runner Build: Clara

bryson

bryson

RME Resident Ninja
Supporting Member
Location
West Jordan
sixstringsteve said:
I could put a bigger bump stop and limit up travel if I wanted, but I don't want to limit articulation. On the ifs lifts, the stiffer spring just pushes the a arms further down.



Bingo. When you're rock crawling, you'll stuff it to the max every once in a while.
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The only time the extended bump stop is technically "limiting" articulation is if you are going to allow the suspension to compress enough to destroy the body. If done properly, the bumpstop simply protects you from having to do bodywork.

On any lift (not just IFS) the stiffer/longer springs simply push the control arm/axle housing away from the frame - that's obvious. But, the stiffer rate and/or longer spring does mean it takes more force to get the suspension to compress to the level of the stock bumpstop - so, in theory it should happen less with the lift.
 
Cascadia

Cascadia

Undecided
Location
Orem, Utah
I'll try and be there tomorrow! You plan on starting about 530? I can probably help out for a few hours but not a late night. Your runner looked amazing today!
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
It took a lot longer than I planned (doesn't it always?), but I go the rear suspension on. Those shocks are a major pain to remove. I ended up breaking the old shocks to remove them. What a pain.

The rear sits 1.75" higher at the moment, but I imagine it'll settle to about 1" higher than stock. I'm really glad to hear that 33's and 4.88s work so well. I think the 285's are just the right tire for this rig. Coming from a Tacoma, it amazes me how much beefier the tacomas are. The ground clearance on the 4runner is super low compared to the Tacoma. It won't matter, since I won't be doing any crazy trails in this rig, but it's quite the contrast between the two.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
Tuesday's work party starts at 5:30 PM and stops around 11. Feel free to swing by if you'd like to lend a hand or just watch. The goal is to get the front suspension installed. It may make sense to swap the front diff and manual hubs as well, we'll just have to play it by ear.
 
Thardy

Thardy

"FARM TOY"
Location
Santaquin, Utah
sixstringsteve said:
The sequoia rims are 17s. 35's require a lot of cutting to fit. In fact, I think even my 33's will rub when the wheel is stuffed, I need to check.

A lot of guys say "I fit X tire with no cutting." Well, that's because they haven't taken it offroad yet and tried to stuff the tire. They don't rub in the parking lot, and they forget that when people crawl, their tires are stuffed up against the bump stop.

On these rigs, a lift won't create any more clearance when the shock is totally bottomed out. When your suspension is completely compressed (bottoming out on the bump stop), the tire is in the same place, regardless of the lift. On these vehicles, unless you add a body lift (yuck!), you won't gain any clearance at full bump. You will gain a bit more clearance at ride height. Not sure if that makes sense. With a lift, you're basically pre-drooping the spring. You trade downtravel for uptravel.

One of the quickest ways to break axles is to have a tire that binds/rubs in the fenders.
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On my '96 I run 285's and did rub the rear of the front fender. I know you hate BL's but I did add a 1"BL and still had to get the hammer out for a tiny bit of fender work. Oh and I'm running 2" wheel spacers. I think with only 1.5 I would have cleared with the BL and no hammer. And yes I have had it off road!:D
 
Thardy

Thardy

"FARM TOY"
Location
Santaquin, Utah
If I can get away early I might try to make it over to help before work, if you don't mind. I would like to meet you guys and see how real Runners are built. that way I can copy yours down the road on mine!!
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
It would be great to meet you Thardy. Ill cut/tub if necessary. But youre right, I do hate body lifts on my rigs. I definitely see where they'd help and save work, but I don't mind taking the time do cut my fenders and make sure they clear.
 
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Thardy

Thardy

"FARM TOY"
Location
Santaquin, Utah
I'm thinking I will most likely stay with 285's or 305's, cut and tub, and pull my body lift off. I know it's only 1" but I'm like you I don't like it.

I will see if I can sneak out of the house a little early and come up to your place before work. I work at 11 so I would probably come around 9-9:30. PM me you address and number and I will text you for sure if I'm coming.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
Cascadia said:
I'll try and be there tomorrow! You plan on starting about 530? I can probably help out for a few hours but not a late night. Your runner looked amazing today!
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Thanks Tyson. I'd love to have you swing by. And bring that sexy new runner you just got, I wanna see that thing in person.

Once again, wrenching party at my house tonight. Starting at 5:30, going 'till 11 or so. Anyone's welcome to come.
 
sixstringsteve

sixstringsteve

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Location
UT
haha, two people, quite the crowd! ;)

My neighbors love it when a bunch of toyotas line the street in front of my house. Seriously, they think it's cool.
 
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