attn: runners!!

[Cascadia]

How big of a guy are you rock monkey? The kayano is for bigger (about 200 lbs or more) dudes or very heavy pronators. If you are doing great in vibrams I would tone down the support unless you are a big guy. But that's just my opinion. The kayano has the most support of any running shoes that asics makes.

 

[Cody]

I did a triathlon a couple weeks ago, and hopefully I'll be able to fit a couple more in this year. If not, I'll have a nice bike for sale

 

[Stephen]

I'm prepping to run the Deseret News 10k in July, it'll be my first race. And I'm planning on doing the Red Rock Relay in September with some friends. I've found running is a great way to get my mind off things.
I also have Vibrams and really enjoy them.

 

[RockMonkey]

How big of a guy are you rock monkey? The kayano is for bigger (about 200 lbs or more) dudes or very heavy pronators. If you are doing great in vibrams I would tone down the support unless you are a big guy. But that's just my opinion. The kayano has the most support of any running shoes that asics makes.

I am a heavy pronator, and way below 200. Kayanos are what Salt Lake Running Company put me in after their treadmill analysis. My running form is very different from barefoot shoes to traditional shoes,as is evidenced by the different muscle soreness. That's pretty typical. People run differently when barefoot, or wearing minimal shoes. That's the whole point.

 

[Tacoma]

Cool... I've had enough time off that I think the transition would be a little less... abrupt I guess. I'll have to get down to the Running Company and get set up. I had knee surgery a long time ago and since then heavy heel-strike stuff bugs it. Hoping barefoot running will alleviate most of that, I love running!

Scott, I'm combing KSL.

 

[DOSS]

Cool... I've had enough time off that I think the transition would be a little less... abrupt I guess. I'll have to get down to the Running Company and get set up. I had knee surgery a long time ago and since then heavy heel-strike stuff bugs it. Hoping barefoot running will alleviate most of that, I love running!

Scott, I'm combing KSL.

SWEET! I am happy to do a rebuild for you if you need

 

[Cascadia]

I am a heavy pronator, and way below 200. Kayanos are what Salt Lake Running Company put me in after their treadmill analysis. My running form is very different from barefoot shoes to traditional shoes,as is evidenced by the different muscle soreness. That's pretty typical. People run differently when barefoot, or wearing minimal shoes. That's the whole point.

That is the whole point but it is also to get you away from wearing pronation shoes. Even though you will still pronate the minimal shoes are strengthening the muscles that don't get used So you don't have to depend on the support from a heavily posted shoe anymore. They are also still working the muscles you're used to, you just don't notice it. In doing this you should try moving to a more neutral shoe.

I don't want to be biased because my family owns runners corner in Orem but that is one of the problems with a treadmill analysis. A treadmill is not a solid surface and it allows you to cave in even more than normal. We have had a few friends work there because they moved to salt lake. They have said that the way they have them analyze people puts the majority of people in a pronation shoe when they should not be in one. I haven't seen you run but even if you were the worst pronator ever you shouldn't be in kayano at your weight.

This is just what I've learned though and I'm trying to help a fellow runner out, not tell him he's wrong. Sorry for the preaching.

 

[RockMonkey]

That is the whole point but it is also to get you away from wearing pronation shoes. Even though you will still pronate the minimal shoes are strengthening the muscles that don't get used So you don't have to depend on the support from a heavily posted shoe anymore. They are also still working the muscles you're used to, you just don't notice it. In doing this you should try moving to a more neutral shoe.

I don't want to be biased because my family owns runners corner in Orem but that is one of the problems with a treadmill analysis. A treadmill is not a solid surface and it allows you to cave in even more than normal. We have had a few friends work there because they moved to salt lake. They have said that the way they have them analyze people puts the majority of people in a pronation shoe when they should not be in one. I haven't seen you run but even if you were the worst pronator ever you shouldn't be in kayano at your weight.

This is just what I've learned though and I'm trying to help a fellow runner out, not tell him he's wrong. Sorry for the preaching.

Interesting. I'm hesitant to change anything now, since everything is working well for me. What shoe would you think would be more appropriate for a ~145 pound 5' 10" over-pronator. I would be happy to try on something else next time I need shoes.

 

[Cascadia]

For your size, if you wanted to go with a minimalist shoe I would recommend an Altra Provision. If you're wanting to go with a shoe withsupport I would say a ds trainer by asics. A shoe like a ds trainer will also save you quite a bit of weight on each foot, like a few onces, which is a big difference. There are plenty of other options from other brands but I wasn't sure if you were brand loyal or something.

 

[RockMonkey]

For your size, if you wanted to go with a minimalist shoe I would recommend an Altra Provision. If you're wanting to go with a shoe withsupport I would say a ds trainer by asics. A shoe like a ds trainer will also save you quite a bit of weight on each foot, like a few onces, which is a big difference. There are plenty of other options from other brands but I wasn't sure if you were brand loyal or something.

I'll try those on next time I'm ready to buy shoes. I have a pair of Kayano 17s that I haven't even worn yet, so it will probably be a while.

 

[Cascadia]

No reason in throwing those away since they're perfectly good and work for you.

 

[thefirstzukman]

I run a 5 or 10k each month and both the dirty dash races in midway, this year I put together a team for the tough mudder in October at millers. I'm not a distance runner at all, but I've enjoyed the shorter stuff. I hope to have a top 3 in my age group this year at least once. My best 5k is 22:40... Keep in mind tho I'm 38.. 5'10" and weigh 225.

 

[Cascadia]

You guys should run my races I put on. They are trail races. The 5k is done for the year but we still have 2 8k's. They are all on single track up in the mountains. Usually around 100 people so there's a better chance of taking top 3 in your age division.

 

[solidfrontaxle]

On the total opposite side of minimalist, what do y'all know about hoka shoes?

 

[Cascadia]

This year at the Timpanogas half marathon which is an ultra in the mountains, there were three broken ankles, one shattered, they were all wearing hokas. I wouldn't recommend them but that's just me. People weren't built and designed to have two or even one inch soles under their feet. That's the experience I've had with them. Some people love them though.

 

[cuban b]

tell us more about these races you put on

 

[sibeta]

I have a pair of the Hoka Mafates, I love them. I bought them last year. They are suprising very stable. They are very spendy. I do quite a bit of trail running and i have really liked the feel of them on the trail. The soles are very very soft and wear away very quickly on anything but dirt.

 

[RockMonkey]

I'm prepping to run the Deseret News 10k in July, it'll be my first race. And I'm planning on doing the Red Rock Relay in September with some friends. I've found running is a great way to get my mind off things.
I also have Vibrams and really enjoy them.

It looks like I'll be running the Red Rock Relay in September too. Looking foward to finding out what my legs will be.

 

[benjy]

You guys should run my races I put on. They are trail races. The 5k is done for the year but we still have 2 8k's. They are all on single track up in the mountains. Usually around 100 people so there's a better chance of taking top 3 in your age division.

I didn't realize you had anything to do with that race. My in laws participated in the 5k a few weeks ago, they said it was a good time. When is the next one?

 

[Cascadia]

The next one is June 30th and it is up south fork canyon at the Big Springs park area. It is an 8k and is fully single track. It's our favorite race we put on. You cross something like 19 bridges in the race. You can check it out on cascadiatrailseries.com. Hopefully the site is up to date. My bro in law is in charge of it.