First Tow with the PSD....

What should I do????


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Meat_

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Lehi
Don't believe the trip computer, fill the tank and use your math.

Don't believe most people's mileage claims with stock diesels. My 24v 98 3500 gets pretty much 15mpg. I lose 1 or 2 with 8k behind me, with the Cummins the key is to keep it below 2,000 most of the time, it drinks fuel after that. Mine is stock, my foot is made of lead and the absolute best I've ever gotten was 17.5mpg all freeway speed.

As for tires, my truck isn't all the way broke in yet so every year on the dyno I would gain 20~22 ft/lbs. I went from 215's (stock) to 235's and LOST 50 ft/lbs to the wheel.

Sorry but anyone who tells you that they don't notice a trailer is someone who doesn't pay much attention to thier vehicle. I can tell the difference with an 800lb wheeler in the back.
 

mbryson

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Meat_ said:
Don't believe the trip computer, fill the tank and use your math.

Don't believe most people's mileage claims with stock diesels. My 24v 98 3500 gets pretty much 15mpg. I lose 1 or 2 with 8k behind me, with the Cummins the key is to keep it below 2,000 most of the time, it drinks fuel after that. Mine is stock, my foot is made of lead and the absolute best I've ever gotten was 17.5mpg all freeway speed.

As for tires, my truck isn't all the way broke in yet so every year on the dyno I would gain 20~22 ft/lbs. I went from 215's (stock) to 235's and LOST 50 ft/lbs to the wheel.

Sorry but anyone who tells you that they don't notice a trailer is someone who doesn't pay much attention to thier vehicle. I can tell the difference with an 800lb wheeler in the back.


So far, my mileage computer has been pretty close to dead on. I validate it against my GPS.

....and that's kinda my observation with the trailer. The truck handled it fine, it just wasn't 'transparent' as some people would like you to believe.
 

Cody

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Gastown
I never use the trip computer. Although it is 'somewhat' accurate if you reset it at each fill up.

Cody
 

Matt

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K-town
Most guys I know with PSD's get better mileage with a chip, filter, exhaust, and 35's, then stock ones!
 

RockMonkey

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I can definately tell a difference towing and not. But after a 100 miles or so into a several-hundred-mile journey, I kinda forget that the trailer is back there. I think that's what people mean when they say they "don't notice" it.
 

Milner

formerly "rckcrlr"
RockMonkey said:
I can definately tell a difference towing and not. But after a 100 miles or so into a several-hundred-mile journey, I kinda forget that the trailer is back there. I think that's what people mean when they say they "don't notice" it.

Yep, about how I feel.
When I towed with the motor home, it worked me. I was exhausted by the time I got to Moab.
With the truck, I can get up, drive 4 or 5 hours and still wheel all day. It is much nicer!

I have driven a several different tow rigs with similar loads (bugggies) open and enclosed trailers. Purely my opinion, I prefer at least an extracab truck with a long bed and an open trailer.... As always, both Dodge and Ford have their +-'s. I ended up with a Ford....if the deal was right it could have easily been a Dodge.
 

mbryson

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Tacoma said:
hey Mark, I don't want to make you any more... lukewarm about that PSD, BUT... on the way to CA with a nearly 10k load (8020lb M715 w/Rock's and 46's) and 2 people in the truck, my good pal Tom's Duramax got a no-sh*t 17mpg average all the way there. He was somewhat incredulous, and triple checked, against the odomete and fuel use, not using the onboard computer. .........


I've got to respect the Duramax, but until that truck has even a little aesthetic appeal to me, it'll never be in my driveway (put a Dmax or Cummins w/overdrive trans (NV4500/5600) in your '88 crew and I'm VERY INTERESTED, though). The GMC is 'OK', IMHO, but the "Taz" look of the Chev does NOTHING for me (and I'm about as big of a GM biggot as they come). And while they're redesigning their new platform for me, I'd like to see a 3500 HD solid axle option. (I'll keep dreaming...... and buying/using different branded trucks until then.) I also hate the 'packaging' of options (every automaker does it, but GM is totally annoying to me for some reason). I like leather, but don't want Onstar and all the other latte maker, toaster, printer/fax/copier/scanner, walk-in-closet, jetted tub options that come with the leather.

I'm an IFS hater and proud of it. If people like it, I respect that. I HATE the feel over the road expansion joints and bridge gaps and prefer the solid axle 'bounce'. Maybe it's what I'm used to and if I drove the IFS longer, I'd appreciate it, but I'm just not willing to pay for something I 'might' end up liking. I'm curious to see the Toyota and Nissan entries over the next few years. I've put 80K on a Nissan medium duty (UD) and have a lot of respect for that truck platform.

I bought the PSD because it was one of the best 'deals' I could find. I spent a few YEARS looking at trucks and kinda narrowed it down to a few things I wanted.

Not red. (no offense to red truck owners, it's just not the right color for me. Maybe I've painted to many red Mustangs or something?)

I wanted a full crew cab ('03-current Dodges would work fine. An earlier Dodge ext. cab would work OK for a decent 'deal' and a solid truck.).

Solid axle front.

Manual trans.

Comfortable interior.

4WD shifter on the floor (not into that switch thing on the dash).

I got everything but the manual trans in this truck. My wife was happy that was the compromise that I accepted (she can't/won't drive a stick). Despite my IFS hate, I did look at a few GMC HD trucks. There was a SWEET deal on a burgandy one, but it honestly drove like a Buick, not a truck (maybe some people like that?). It bugged me I couldn't get past it, but I couldn't. {It also had an auto, IFS, button shift 4WD, lazy boy seats, and was somewhat red. I didn't think I'd be happy with it.} My $$$ went elsewhere.


moderator note:I'd like to not see this thread denegrate into someone trying to convince me I'd be happy with the IFS. It's just not going to happen. I tried it a A LOT. My neighbor is a Chev salesman and let me drive anything/everything I wanted at their lot for as long as I wanted (within reason--overnight, over the weekend, etc.). I just couldn't buy something I don't like.
 

neagtea

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farmington
I had no luck bending ex. tube with the same bender russ uses. Buy some 90's and 45's and straight pipe and weld up your own exhaust. Or go to steve at Pro Ex.
Hey rckcrlr What do ya mean by winter fuel?
 

mbryson

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neagtea said:
I had no luck bending ex. tube with the same bender russ uses. Buy some 90's and 45's and straight pipe and weld up your own exhaust. Or go to steve at Pro Ex.
Hey rckcrlr What do ya mean by winter fuel?


Neagle, where's Pro Ex.?
 

neagtea

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farmington
He is up on the east side of hill air force base. He is good with non standard exhausts and uses beefey mounts I have used him for stuff with 4 links and tight fits Such as hot rods.
3067 n. 750 e. #2 Layton
771-0487
 

skittles

Registered User
neagtea said:
Hey rckcrlr What do ya mean by winter fuel?

he means winter fuel gas companies use different fuel in the winter than they do in the summer. you usually get a little bit better gas mileage in the summer than the winter and the different fuels do play a part in this.

-trent
 

mbryson

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skittles said:
he means winter fuel gas companies use different fuel in the winter than they do in the summer. you usually get a little bit better gas mileage in the summer than the winter and the different fuels do play a part in this.

-trent


I'd venture a guess that Neagtea knows more about fuel than ANY of us.
 

Milner

formerly "rckcrlr"
skittles said:
he means winter fuel gas companies use different fuel in the winter than they do in the summer. you usually get a little bit better gas mileage in the summer than the winter and the different fuels do play a part in this.

-trent

Thats what I have been told too. But if I am wrong, please educate me.

I think I also loose some milage due to the motor running cold in the winter. Never gets up to where it is as effeciant....Might be wrong about that too. But my milage is worse in winter for whatever reason.
 

Matt

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Location
K-town
Well a "winter blend" is a addative to keep the fuel from gelling up in the cold, looks like it has a greenish tint.
 

RockMonkey

Suddenly Enthusiastic
Matt said:
Well a "winter blend" is a addative to keep the fuel from gelling up in the cold, looks like it has a greenish tint.
Um, all diesel has a greenish tint... Unless it has a reddish tint, of course. :ugh:
 

fergusor

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Clearfield, ut
the tints are used to tell what type of fuel your using. Green is taxed for road us. Red is used for non highway use mostly use in agg and construction equipment. Dont get caught with red in your the system
 

Tacoma

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far enough away
That's funny, because some of the diesel I've purchased in PA is definitely red-tinted, out of the pump-- the diesel pump at the station, not Agway or kerosene.
 
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