Fred is RED
- Thread starter Hickey
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- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
Came across this idea today.
He used two of those side by side on each end of the leaf. So you would need 8 total.
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He used two of those side by side on each end of the leaf. So you would need 8 total.
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- Location
- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
Just beware. Those bumps tear of the metal stud if they are side loaded. I had some just like that (only shorter) on the upper a-arms on my prerunner and they tore after one "spirited driving" event.
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
There are some shorter applications out there as well. It seems like your generation of truck has the overload a lot closer to the pad than the latest trucks.
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
I was comparing my overloads with my friend's 2018 Super Duty and they definitely changed the distance between the overload leaf and the contact pads.
I did some experimenting with weights by putting a full tote of water in the bed (2,300 lbs) and pushed it to the front of the bed. This far forward should put a significant amount of weight on the front axle, more weight than a heavy 5th wheel does. The front suspension compressed 3/8" and the rear 3.5" and the overloads are still not touching.
I did some experimenting with weights by putting a full tote of water in the bed (2,300 lbs) and pushed it to the front of the bed. This far forward should put a significant amount of weight on the front axle, more weight than a heavy 5th wheel does. The front suspension compressed 3/8" and the rear 3.5" and the overloads are still not touching.
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
With that water-filled tote in the bed, I loaded and hooked up my tractor in my dump trailer with a billion other things for a week at our property. I estimate the total weight at 12k for all of the weight excluding the truck. This is the most weight I have pulled with this truck so far and I'm quite happy with the drivetrain. That motor is pretty quiet until you put a load on it. With a load on there she has a really awesome growl. I had no trouble keeping the speed limit and accelerating up grades. I averaged 9 mpg for that 130 mile trip. Plenty of grades involved.
The trailer and water tote combined finally make the overloads do their job, and it rides pretty nice while looking ridiculous. The rear was sagging so bad that I was concerned about losing pressure on the steering axle, but that wasn't the case at all.
Just to remind everyone, I ordered this truck with 3 options that each increases the front spring rate: Snow plow prep, Camper package, and Heavy Service front axle. This was a mistake on my part, as the Camper package would have been sufficient. In comparing my front axle GVWR with other trucks, I have the highest available GVWR springs for a 2022 F-350.
I'm trying to find some Tremor trim springs with the lowest GVWR on the part number to swap out for more realistic weight handling characteristics. The Tremor springs have 2" of lift built in, but softer rates.
For the rear, I'm going to make spacers out of 2" rectangle tube that will bolt in place and hold the overload rubber isolator on the bottom of them.
The trailer and water tote combined finally make the overloads do their job, and it rides pretty nice while looking ridiculous. The rear was sagging so bad that I was concerned about losing pressure on the steering axle, but that wasn't the case at all.
Just to remind everyone, I ordered this truck with 3 options that each increases the front spring rate: Snow plow prep, Camper package, and Heavy Service front axle. This was a mistake on my part, as the Camper package would have been sufficient. In comparing my front axle GVWR with other trucks, I have the highest available GVWR springs for a 2022 F-350.
I'm trying to find some Tremor trim springs with the lowest GVWR on the part number to swap out for more realistic weight handling characteristics. The Tremor springs have 2" of lift built in, but softer rates.
For the rear, I'm going to make spacers out of 2" rectangle tube that will bolt in place and hold the overload rubber isolator on the bottom of them.
RockChucker
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- Location
- Highland
What is the front axle weight rating?
- Location
- Bountiful, land of rocks
Pile of parts
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- Location
- South Jordan
Hard to argue for a diesel with those numbers. My '15 3500 cummins does no better with a similar load. I'm guessing that was your experience with your old truck and that's one of the reasons you went this route.
Order two sets 😘
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
Well Fred turned 1 year old this week and he got an oil change and a 1,000 mile trip, towing to and from Colorado. He also turned 10,000 miles on the way home.
The oil change was pretty simple and uses the same oil filter Ford has used on millions of engines for many years. 8.5 quarts of 10-30 full synthetic went in Fred's gullet.
On the return trip from Durango, Colorado I averaged 11.8 mpg towing my JK on the Jeep Dolly. That's my best towing mileage with this setup. Last trip was similar terrain and more wind, but I kept it under 70 mph this time.
The oil change was pretty simple and uses the same oil filter Ford has used on millions of engines for many years. 8.5 quarts of 10-30 full synthetic went in Fred's gullet.
On the return trip from Durango, Colorado I averaged 11.8 mpg towing my JK on the Jeep Dolly. That's my best towing mileage with this setup. Last trip was similar terrain and more wind, but I kept it under 70 mph this time.
I wonder how well a gladiator would tow my moonbuggy on that Jeep dolly.......
- Location
- Grand Junction, CO
Not well enough that you'd want to go far or do it often, at least with the Pentastar... IMO.
I had the eco diesel in mind but I was afraid that was the answer. LOL
- Location
- Grantsville, Utah
Moon buggy is what, 3k? Trailer is 1,200. You can try it it out if it fits on the trailer.
- Location
- Grand Junction, CO
I think the EcoDiesel would tow a buggy much better, the question becomes reliability though.
- Location
- Grand Junction, CO
Oh boy... You mean Ford had to reverse engineer the LS and it took them took them 25 years to figure out how to build a half decent engine?
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