SnwMnkys
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People need to know that these engines also have torque management programming built into them.
People need to know that these engines also have torque management programming built into them.
Yup makes a huge difference. Jeep is sayin 75% torque just above idle which is still 350 lb ft.
Yeah no 2wd and its not even getting the 4.0:1 T/caseI heard its going to be AWD like the Grand Cherokee. Anyone confirm?
Doesn't change the fact that vehicle prices are ridiculous....MSRP is a always higher than what you should pay. I paid $5k under MSRP for my loaded Rubicon Gladiator from my local dealer and that was right when they were released.
Doesn't change the fact that vehicle prices are ridiculous....
The interesting piece will be seeing if they suffer from the Raptor/Hellcat effect and are priced ABOVE MSRP on the lot.
I do realize this. back when I sold Jeeps in 1998, they rarely had to haggle off MSRP. I know that's not the case now and that there is a little room...however, I do expect these will command a premium right up front, and will not be remotely surprised if it means MSRP+ for awhile.MSRP is a always higher than what you should pay. I paid $5k under MSRP for my loaded Rubicon Gladiator from my local dealer and that was right when they were released.
If you knock $5k off the MSRP of your first price, it gets in the $67k range... and that's $12k more than I paid. Seems reasonable for a V8 IMO.
I do realize this. back when I sold Jeeps in 1998, they rarely had to haggle off MSRP. I know that's not the case now and that there is a little room...however, I do expect these will command a premium right up front, and will not be remotely surprised if it means MSRP+ for awhile.
I am still amazed that a new Jeep Wrangler can have an MSRP over $80k. As I said, back when I was selling Jeeps a full loaded Grand Cherokee 5.9L Limited was just about $40k....a fully loaded Sahara TJ was just under $30k.