Protests

[Herzog]

Because like @TRD270 likes to remind us "orange man bad."

Examples of why he's bad? Other than the msm agitprop?

 

[Stephen]

Last time I feel like there were adults running the country:

 

[UNSTUCK]

Apparently Utah is considering it.

Is ranked-choice voting the answer to plurality?

The same Utah legislative committee that previously determined there was no issue with plurality winners voted to work on a ranked-choice voting bill for the 2021 Legislature.

www.ksl.com

Like any voting system it can have drawbacks and challenges, but I like the idea that if there is not a clear winner with 50% or more votes they can go back and look at second picks and add those votes to the top two to get someone with 50% or more. This way more people can feel good about voting in the person they really want vs voting in the lessor crook. If the person I really want just gets blown out of the water, then my second pick can take over if needed and I can help keep the real crook out.

 

[glockman]

I misspoke, It was a radiolab podcast. Good stuff.

Tweak the Vote

On the eve of the midterm elections, we look at one tweak to voting that could help bring democracy back from the brink …

www.wnycstudios.org

 

[TRD270]

Examples of why he's bad? Other than the msm agitprop?

I ask the same question, most common answer is “the way he treats women”

So behavior prior to presidency justifies orange man bad? He’s done a lot of good and certainly better than socialism

I don’t dispute he’s a vile human, but he hasn’t been a terrible president

 

[nnnnnate]

Its not just prior behavior that I disagree with. I actually disagree that he has done a lot of good, from my perspective a lot of those things have had the opposite affect. Immigration, trade deals, climate and regulation rollbacks. The list goes on...

 

[cruiseroutfit]

Its not just prior behavior that I disagree with. I actually disagree that he has done a lot of good, from my perspective a lot of those things have had the opposite affect. Immigration, trade deals, climate and regulation rollbacks. The list goes on...

... done more good for public land users (particularly motorized users in Utah) than any recent history president. Of course some call that bad for the "climate" and environment. I'll give you a list of the trails he's saved... you should avoid them.

 

[4x4_Welder]

I didn't know about Jo Jo. Just looked her up.

Q&A for Jo Jorgensen Presidential Campaign

Q&A on subjects submitted for Presidentail Candidate Jo Jorgensen, Libertarian.

jo20.com

I'd really like to try ranked voting. That could really changed election outcomes.

CGP Grey did a video on this. It looks like this is a huge problem in the UK, as the represented areas are about the size of counties in most US states. Get one high concentration spot, and it skews the represented area.

One of the earliest presidential election methods in the US was a first place-runner up system for the president and vice president respectfully. Given the issues that have been exposed with the current system, it may be more fair to return to this system, at least for a time. I'd also like to see a sales tax rather than income tax, but that's just me.

 

[nnnnnate]

Sure Kurt. Send me a list and I'll keep away from them.

This isnt the place to try and explain my views and I'm not articulate enough to do so in a coherent manner anyway. Who am I though, nothing but a sheep trying to make it in the big world.

 

[Hickey]

What is it about immigration? Truly curious.

I've been updated daily (6 days a week it seems) and educated and attended well over a dozen lectures for nearly the last 12 years because my wife is an immigration attorney.

She has seen it all. The woman has literally saved families from the cartel.

I keep forgetting about your wife's work. When it comes to opinions on immigration, I'll take hers (and yours) as the most reliable and credible.

 

[Hickey]

As far as presidents go, they're all shits, at least in my lifetime. That opinion of mine does not keep me from admitting that all of them have done some great things for America and the world. I can hate them all if I focus on the bad things they did, but ignoring the good things they've done is just retarded.

 

[Hickey]

@UT410 get that Samurai finished.

 

[TRD270]

 

[jeeper]

Bad mom award. No matter what the others are doing, the mom shouldn't have made the boy deal with all the drama and crap.

 

[TRD270]

Bad mom award. No matter what the others are doing, the mom shouldn't have made the boy deal with all the drama and crap.

Bad behavior all around there

 

[Stephen]

I'm inclined to agree with this, but what do you think the direction the quiet majority must take in order to push back at that process? I guess what I'm asking is, historically what slowed/stopped/reversed this? Seems like a freight train with the power of viral media fueling it from within a growing population of people who trust sodial media over traditional news outlets (and who's to blame them) and tend to react first and question later.

I read this today, thought it did a more eloquent job of answering your question than I did:

Probing with Bayonets

Earlier this week, footage emerged of a Black Lives Matter mob in Portland beating a man unconscious after dragging him out of his truck. The incident began at around 10:30 p.m. on Sunday when the gentleman in question was attacked while still in his car. Panicked, he sped off as the mob gave chase before crashing into a tree and a nearby building, bringing the vehicle to an ignominious halt. The driver was then quickly pulled out of his truck and onto the ground whereupon he was savagely beaten as he pleaded with his captors to no avail. Eventually, one of these common criminals ended this collective paroxysm of violence by kicking his helpless victim in the back of the head, knocking him unconscious as his skull crashed against the pavement. There is also a sobbing woman in the background of the footage, visibly distressed at what is unfolding before her eyes and calling for an end to the violence, but she is restrained by the Black Lives Matter criminals as they rifle through their victim’s truck, looking for anything of material value.

This episode put me in mind of an old quotation from Lenin that he used to describe the Bolsheviks’ revolutionary strategy.

You probe with bayonets: if you find mush, you push. If you find steel, you withdraw.

This has been the tactic of every revolutionary movement in modern history. Armed with the sharp end of their weapons (both physical and philosophical), they search for the soft underbelly of the existing order, the place at once most vulnerable and least likely to offer concerted resistance. When this point is discovered, Lenin instructs his followers to attack it with all their might.

The more interesting part of the quotation, however, is the second sentence: “If you find steel, you withdraw.” This line testifies to Lenin’s tactical genius as a violent revolutionary. He knew then in the early years of the last century what every historian worth their salt knows today: The decisive factor determining the success or failure of any revolution is not the zeal or the firepower of the rebels, it’s the willpower and self-confidence of the establishment they are attempting to overthrow. When regimes fall, it is inevitably because the elites presiding over its continued existence lose faith in what they’re defending or have not the intestinal fortitude to defend with all the manic fervor and devotion of the mob. Revolutions succeed largely by sapping the ancient regime of their morale, their self-image, and their stomach for the fight.

This is essentially what happened during the War of Independence. If the British Empire had mobilized all of her blood and treasure to defeat the Patriot cause, they certainly could have won the war quite easily. But by the time Lord Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown, the loyalist cause had atrophied in the eyes of many Englishmen both in financial and ideological terms. Most of the greatest luminaries in the British House of Commons during that day, such as Edmund Burke, were hugely sympathetic towards both the grievances and the ideals of the rebels from the beginning. The Vietnam War is a similar story, except the roles were reversed as far as the United States was concerned.

The most reliable indicator for the success of any revolution is whether or not one can hear this question being asked among those in power: “Are we sure we’re on the right side of this?” Once these words begin to make their way around the corridors of power, the writing is on the wall for the powers that be.

However, when those powers are animated by unwavering moral clarity and fierce devotion to that which is under attack, they rarely succumb to insurgents. The Confederacy could never find a way to tell the story of the war in such a way that would enervate the morale of Union troops and make Lincoln’s men wonder if Jeff Davis hadn’t been right after all. During the Civil War, the men of the South probed with their bayonets and met steel. The deck was stacked in that conflict as far as each soldier’s confidence in the justice of their cause was concerned. Southern politicians could talk all they liked about “state’s rights” and their “peculiar institution,” they would never convince the boy in blue whose eyes had seen the glory of the coming of the Lord, coming over the hill to kill them.

Black Lives Matter, it seems, have probed and found mush in the area of race relations. This is hardly surprising. If there is one issue on which Americans are likely to doubt the justice of their nation’s cause, it is the issue of race. It is hard for a country only 60-odd years removed from the civil-rights movement to have great confidence in the established order when that order is criticized for racial injustice. But the fact that this doubt manifests itself in a reluctance to stand four-square behind the rule of law is what cynical criminals such as those mentioned above prey upon. They firmly believe that this reluctance will allow them to get away with beating the living daylights out of a human being in the middle of an American city and then rummaging through his car to steal things . . . on camera.

Being a conservative is always the more difficult position to take in conflicts of this nature, because being a conservative means loving something that actually exists, and therefore loving something imperfect. The love of progressives is reserved for a hypothetical and perfect society that does not (and will never) exist, and so they are never faced with the task of loving anyone or anything in spite of their imperfections. Their only task here in the real world is to tear everything down to hasten the age to come. They will, therefore, keep probing and probing, looking for the chink in America’s armor, and turning her imperfections against her, so that lawless criminals have the moral cover they require to destroy everything that stands in the way of utopia. If conservatives will not stand up to the mob and insist upon the rule of American law within American borders, then every aspect of this country that falls short of progressive paradise will be destroyed in successive rounds of violence and civil strife. It’s time to meet the bayonets with steel.

 

[TRD270]

Here we go again, setting fires and destroying businesses that had nothing to do with the incident. Turns out, dude had a felony warrant and was armed with a knife..... but hey let’s crucify the police before we have the info.

Another interesting quote from my latest read:

“Today we are not in a civil war, and I don’t think that we are headed for a civil war in the conventional, nineteenth-century sense. We are, however, in a cold civil war. It’s a cold war, but not like the one Reagan fought, because it is domestic rather than international. And it’s a civil war because now, as in 1860, there is a deep dividing line that runs through the country, not a regional line but rather an ideological one. It separates Americans from each other in a manner unprecedented in my lifetime and cuts deeper than any other schism since Lincoln’s time. Therefore Lincoln’s question—how prepared are we for the severities of our time?—remains pertinent for us.”

 

[Spork]

 

[Spork]

Need to virtual signal harder...

 

[Jesser04]

Here we go again, setting fires and destroying businesses that had nothing to do with the incident. Turns out, dude had a felony warrant and was armed with a knife..... but hey let’s crucify the police before we have the info.

Another interesting quote from my latest read:

“Today we are not in a civil war, and I don’t think that we are headed for a civil war in the conventional, nineteenth-century sense. We are, however, in a cold civil war. It’s a cold war, but not like the one Reagan fought, because it is domestic rather than international. And it’s a civil war because now, as in 1860, there is a deep dividing line that runs through the country, not a regional line but rather an ideological one. It separates Americans from each other in a manner unprecedented in my lifetime and cuts deeper than any other schism since Lincoln’s time. Therefore Lincoln’s question—how prepared are we for the severities of our time?—remains pertinent for us.”

I’m not a cop but I know you might have some insight. After the first altercation on the passenger side on the car why didn’t they tase the ever loving Jesus out of him before he got to the drivers door? My Monday morning quarter backing would think some tasing would be justified in that situation.