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Brett

Brett

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Okay, so one thing that happened here in Utah. And what about the rest of the of the nation, the wordl?


Honestly, I could care less that he was getting his rocks off with Monica. Does that change his presidency? It's like finding out your boss you've known for years is having an affair, but you didn't know because he still did his job just the same as always.
 
Tacoma

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Brett said:
Okay, so one thing that happened here in Utah. And what about the rest of the of the nation, the wordl?


Honestly, I could care less that he was getting his rocks off with Monica. Does that change his presidency? It's like finding out your boss you've known for years is having an affair, but you didn't know because he still did his job just the same as always.
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Goes to character though.
 
Brett

Brett

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Skylinerider said:
Grand Staricase
Monica Gate
Missing out on Osama
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Staircase was a mistake, but that's not a global effect, nor even national.
Monica, he got a BJ, who cares. Republicans are the one's that blew that out of proportion.
Osama, wasn't even a big concern until after 9/11 when everyone suddenly blamed Clinton.
 
Maverick

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Seth said:
Did anyone really think Romney had a real chance? Be honest with yourself. I loved what Ron Paul was saying but I knew he didn't have a snowballs chance in hell. I think Romney did a great job with the olympics. Did a great job in Mass. But do you really think christian conservatives would get past the mormon issue? I am surprised he got as far as he did. He was flipping his views all over. That is a real turn off to people. It is for me anyway. I know flipping is what politicians do but Romney's flips were a little too calculated and hollow. They were straight up pandering and it showed.

As far as a wasted vote. No I don't think any vote was wasted on him. If Hillary had won Utah then yeah they were wasted.

I know a lot of people that will vote Obama over any Elephant, but any Republican over Hillary. It will be interesting to see if the Clintons can hold on. I hope to hell not.
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ya, I really thought people would be smart enough to see the caliber of leader than Romney is. I thought wrong.

It is interesting that today they (talk radio) are talking about something that I've been saying all along: McCain can beat Billary, Obama can beat McCain, but Obama's got to beat Billary. The problem is that Obama is just a nicer version of Billary. Both will squash BLM and Forest Service motorized access and will AGAIN redefine the definition of a road and roadless.

And push for 55mph speed limits...AGAIN. Maybe it's a stretch...maybe not.

There are other issues too, but those hit close to home.

Brett
 
Brett

Brett

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Tacoma said:
Absolutely not. He was still wanted though.
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True, he was wanted. The USA missed the chance to take him out. We also missed the chance to kill Hussein during the Gulf War. And look where we are now.

20/20 hindsight is great, but no one ever seems to have a valid reason why Clinton was so bad for the US, in my opinion.
 
Maverick

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Brett said:
Okay, so one thing that happened here in Utah. And what about the rest of the of the nation, the world?

Character matters...Monicagate had as much to do with the way he handled it as what he did.
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"Roadless"
Healthcare
Taxes
Lack of respect for the Armed Forces and for America being a super power
Lack of respect the Armed Forces had for him.
 
Maverick

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Brett said:
True, he was wanted. The USA missed the chance to take him out. We also missed the chance to kill Hussein during the Gulf War. And look where we are now.

20/20 hindsight is great, but no one ever seems to have a valid reason why Clinton was so bad for the US, in my opinion.
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We didn't "miss the chance" during the Gulf War, there were calculated reasons why we didn't and it had a lot to do with the Coalition that was formed: Get Hussein out of Kuwait and stop. That's what they did.

Osama: Yup, screwed the chance on that one.

Define "valid".

I guess what is valid for me is not valid for you. There's politics for you.
 
offroaddave

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Brett said:
Okay, so one thing that happened here in Utah. And what about the rest of the of the nation, the wordl?


Honestly, I could care less that he was getting his rocks off with Monica. Does that change his presidency? It's like finding out your boss you've known for years is having an affair, but you didn't know because he still did his job just the same as always.
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If your boss lied to the Grand Jury he'd be in prison. So it's really not like your boss having an affair.
You can't blame him for sleeping around, what with how Hillary looks, And worse how she skreeeeches! Even Monica is an improvment.

That one thing that happened in utah would have been fine if it would'nt have been 1.9 Million Acres. Less than 50.000 acres would not have caused near as many problems. IMO



All of them talk about change, but Bush......Clinton......Bush..... Clinton? Seems like a pattern to me.
 
Brett

Brett

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Maverick said:
We didn't "miss the chance" during the Gulf War, there were calculated reasons why we didn't and it had a lot to do with the Coalition that was formed: Get Hussein out of Kuwait and stop. That's what they did.

Osama: Yup, screwed the chance on that one.

Define "valid".

I guess what is valid for me is not valid for you. There's politics for you.
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Valid meaning he somehow screwed up America. That's the only thing that I mean.

And that's why I said my opinion ;)
 
Brett

Brett

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offroaddave said:
If your boss lied to the Grand Jury he'd be in prison. So it's really not like your boss having an affair.
You can't blame him for sleeping around, what with how Hillary looks, And worse how she skreeeeches! Even Monica is an improvment.

That one thing that happened in utah would have been fine if it would'nt have been 1.9 Million Acres. Less than 50.000 acres would not have caused near as many problems. IMO

All of them talk about change, but Bush......Clinton......Bush..... Clinton? Seems like a pattern to me.
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His personal life is his personal life, in my opinion as well. I do agree he did have an improvement there. ;) This can effect someone's character, but in all, he ran the country better than anyone had in a long time, even while getting it on with the intern.

The Grand Staircase was a bad call for Utah, and for our cause. However, I don't think that changes how well the country did under his presidency. Maybe someday it'll change, but for now we live with it.

And they all talk about change, every single canidate ;)
 
TRNDRVR

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Damn! Third page.

Carry on.
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