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ID Bronco said:
What about birds? I mean if they aren't real do they know about all of them?
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They're real, just not real birds. Those are the government drones they use to spy on all the Korean and Iranian drones while they tell us that they don't know what we're talking about.
 
Kevin B. said:
www.kiro7.com

Road sign with alarming message spotted along Lake Union

The road work sign repeated the message “ONE LESS CEO” and “MANY MORE TO GO."
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Well that's not alarming at all. I wonder what security is like at Bill Gate's mansion tonight.
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I think many of these CEOs are evil and deserve to live in fear. However, they will just use their resources to delineate themselves from us deplorables even more. More security, more gated communities. Nothing will come of this type of vigilante attack.
The problem is CEOs have created their own monopoly on the market and hence have artificially inflated their value. The government can't fix it and will only make it worse with regulations. The general population can't do anything about it other than catch one of them out like Luigi did. How do you fight someone with $100 million dollars? I guess you make them live in fear which may or may not happen.
 
glockman said:
I think many of these CEOs are evil and deserve to live in fear. However, they will just use their resources to delineate themselves from us deplorables even more. More security, more gated communities. Nothing will come of this type of vigilante attack.
The problem is CEOs have created their own monopoly on the market and hence have artificially inflated their value. The government can't fix it and will only make it worse with regulations. The general population can't do anything about it other than catch one of them out like Luigi did. How do you fight someone with $100 million dollars? I guess you make them live in fear which may or may not happen.
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100%.

I am not inherently an optimist. I do think there really is a path to fixing it, and it goes through the government, but it doesn't start there. We as voters and citizens have to come together to put politicians in at the lowest levels (school boards, city and county councils, etc) who are honest and intelligent and ethical, who see the problems and are willing to buck the system in order to work towards correcting them. Those efforts propagate up as those local politicians move up to more powerful positions, and eventually you have a base in place that can effectively resist the lobbyists and the big money and start putting us back on track. The alternative, like you said, is violent grassroots opposition, and even if that had a chance of being effective, it's a long and bloody road.

I don't hold out much hope. I don't think the United States as a people has it in us to fix this. We have to be a capitalism, but we cannot be an unregulated capitalism, and that means we can't be lazy. I think we're too soft, too lazy, and we will be too lazy until we see a couple generations of serious struggle and hardship again.
 
It's rather fascinating to watch people who until recently were talking about law and order and espousing small "c" conservatism suddenly embrace cold blooded murder as an instrument of social change and sing praise to the ideals of Marx.

glockman said:
The problem is CEOs have created their own monopoly on the market and hence have artificially inflated their value. The government can't fix it and will only make it worse with regulations. The general population can't do anything about it other than catch one of them out like Luigi did. How do you fight someone with $100 million dollars? I guess you make them live in fear which may or may not happen.
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Sounds oddly familiar... Oh, yeah:

“Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."
Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
 
Spork said:
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nypost.com

Humans may be fueling global warming by breathing: new study

“Exhaled human breath can contain small, elevated concentrations of methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide (N2O), both of which contribute to global warming,” according to research released last week in t…
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stop breathing to stop global warming...
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You may be surprised to hear that the people most worried about Global Warming want just that, mass extinction of humans. It's a crazy thought, but the evidence is real.

I just finished listening to the book Fosil Future by Alex Epstein. A very interesting take on the motives behind climate change legislation and uproar.
 
Stephen said:
It's rather fascinating to watch people who until recently were talking about law and order and espousing small "c" conservatism suddenly embrace cold blooded murder as an instrument of social change and sing praise to the ideals of Marx.


Sounds oddly familiar... Oh, yeah:

“Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."
Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
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Except that is literally what the 2A is for. The oppressing class doesn't stop being the oppressing class just because they're capitalist pig-dogs instead of King George III.

Not that I'm embracing murder. But there's a reason we've reserved that option for ourselves, and as the oppressing class gets more oppress-ivy, more people are going to start considering it as an option.
 
Kevin B. said:
Except that is literally what the 2A is for. The oppressing class doesn't stop being the oppressing class just because they're capitalist pig-dogs instead of King George III.

Not that I'm embracing murder. But there's a reason we've reserved that option for ourselves, and as the oppressing class gets more oppress-ivy, more people are going to start considering it as an option.
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Oppressing class…some communist shit happening in this thread
 
Kevin B. said:
I don't hold out much hope. I don't think the United States as a people has it in us to fix this. We have to be a capitalism, but we cannot be an unregulated capitalism, and that means we can't be lazy. I think we're too soft, too lazy, and we will be too lazy until we see a couple generations of serious struggle and hardship again.
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This is something I've mentioned a while ago in this thread. Simply put, it's too easy and comfortable to be poor nowadays. I see way too many people perfectly comfortable renting a tiny apartment (or living at their parents home) and doing nothing but playing video games and watching tv for the rest of their life. Doesn't cost much money at all.

It's a joke I make to my wife all the time: My cheapest hobby is my Xbox. If she wants me to do other stuff she has to let me spend money. 😜
 
Stephen said:
It's rather fascinating to watch people who until recently were talking about law and order and espousing small "c" conservatism suddenly embrace cold blooded murder as an instrument of social change and sing praise to the ideals of Marx.


Sounds oddly familiar... Oh, yeah:

“Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."
Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
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I think you missed the part where I said government can't fix this. I actually think they could but human nature will prevent it. That viewpoint clashes pretty heavily with Marxism.
My personal opinion is that the healthcare system in the US is the worst of both free market and social medicine. Government mandated health insurance without the benefit of single payer. However, because I have a child with a serious/terminal disease, I do have a moral quandary that I am either not bright enough to reconcile or I'm too stubborn to admit my opinion may be wrong. A complete free market system would likely put me in the poor house to treat my child but I also see that the US develops far better treatment for him than social medicine. I still stand by hating CEO's of insurance companies and I think Copay accumulators are evidence enough to prove I'm not wrong in that stance.


SoopaHick said:
This is something I've mentioned a while ago in this thread. Simply put, it's too easy and comfortable to be poor nowadays. I see way too many people perfectly comfortable renting a tiny apartment (or living at their parents home) and doing nothing but playing video games and watching tv for the rest of their life. Doesn't cost much money at all.

It's a joke I make to my wife all the time: My cheapest hobby is my Xbox. If she wants me to do other stuff she has to let me spend money. 😜
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I think insurance in general is a sign of how low most people's risk tolerance is. I may be showing my old man status but I really think the current generation is the least risk tolerant of any in US history. Covid cemented that for me. However, I think it is Gen X and Boomers fault for helicopter parenting kids. They have taught them that the world is too dangerous to explore and experiment and now we have a generation who is so afraid to take risk that they just settle for mediocrity. I see most people on RME have not taken this stance with raising kids and most of you who I know have kids that are flourishing because of it. I see the same with the Desert Racing community. Those kids are kick ass! We need more risk takers.
 
Kevin B. said:
Except that is literally what the 2A is for. The oppressing class doesn't stop being the oppressing class just because they're capitalist pig-dogs instead of King George III.

Not that I'm embracing murder. But there's a reason we've reserved that option for ourselves, and as the oppressing class gets more oppress-ivy, more people are going to start considering it as an option.
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You had me at 2A.
 
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