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glockman

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Well that's not alarming at all. I wonder what security is like at Bill Gate's mansion tonight.
I think many of these CEOs are evil and deserve to live in fear. However, they will just use their resources to delineate themselves from us deplorables even more. More security, more gated communities. Nothing will come of this type of vigilante attack.
The problem is CEOs have created their own monopoly on the market and hence have artificially inflated their value. The government can't fix it and will only make it worse with regulations. The general population can't do anything about it other than catch one of them out like Luigi did. How do you fight someone with $100 million dollars? I guess you make them live in fear which may or may not happen.
 

Kevin B.

Not often wrong. Never quite right.
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I think many of these CEOs are evil and deserve to live in fear. However, they will just use their resources to delineate themselves from us deplorables even more. More security, more gated communities. Nothing will come of this type of vigilante attack.
The problem is CEOs have created their own monopoly on the market and hence have artificially inflated their value. The government can't fix it and will only make it worse with regulations. The general population can't do anything about it other than catch one of them out like Luigi did. How do you fight someone with $100 million dollars? I guess you make them live in fear which may or may not happen.
100%.

I am not inherently an optimist. I do think there really is a path to fixing it, and it goes through the government, but it doesn't start there. We as voters and citizens have to come together to put politicians in at the lowest levels (school boards, city and county councils, etc) who are honest and intelligent and ethical, who see the problems and are willing to buck the system in order to work towards correcting them. Those efforts propagate up as those local politicians move up to more powerful positions, and eventually you have a base in place that can effectively resist the lobbyists and the big money and start putting us back on track. The alternative, like you said, is violent grassroots opposition, and even if that had a chance of being effective, it's a long and bloody road.

I don't hold out much hope. I don't think the United States as a people has it in us to fix this. We have to be a capitalism, but we cannot be an unregulated capitalism, and that means we can't be lazy. I think we're too soft, too lazy, and we will be too lazy until we see a couple generations of serious struggle and hardship again.
 

Stephen

Who Dares Wins
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It's rather fascinating to watch people who until recently were talking about law and order and espousing small "c" conservatism suddenly embrace cold blooded murder as an instrument of social change and sing praise to the ideals of Marx.

The problem is CEOs have created their own monopoly on the market and hence have artificially inflated their value. The government can't fix it and will only make it worse with regulations. The general population can't do anything about it other than catch one of them out like Luigi did. How do you fight someone with $100 million dollars? I guess you make them live in fear which may or may not happen.
Sounds oddly familiar... Oh, yeah:

“Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."
Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
 

moab_cj5

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stop breathing to stop global warming...
You may be surprised to hear that the people most worried about Global Warming want just that, mass extinction of humans. It's a crazy thought, but the evidence is real.

I just finished listening to the book Fosil Future by Alex Epstein. A very interesting take on the motives behind climate change legislation and uproar.
 

Kevin B.

Not often wrong. Never quite right.
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It's rather fascinating to watch people who until recently were talking about law and order and espousing small "c" conservatism suddenly embrace cold blooded murder as an instrument of social change and sing praise to the ideals of Marx.


Sounds oddly familiar... Oh, yeah:

“Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."
Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
Except that is literally what the 2A is for. The oppressing class doesn't stop being the oppressing class just because they're capitalist pig-dogs instead of King George III.

Not that I'm embracing murder. But there's a reason we've reserved that option for ourselves, and as the oppressing class gets more oppress-ivy, more people are going to start considering it as an option.
 

johngottfredson

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Except that is literally what the 2A is for. The oppressing class doesn't stop being the oppressing class just because they're capitalist pig-dogs instead of King George III.

Not that I'm embracing murder. But there's a reason we've reserved that option for ourselves, and as the oppressing class gets more oppress-ivy, more people are going to start considering it as an option.
Oppressing class…some communist shit happening in this thread
 
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