For me, the problem lies in that everyone thinks that their generation is the best/smartest/strongest generation. Personally I've encountered people from all ages that have both made me feel like Einstein, and have also shown how dumb I can be with some things. It's finding the middle ground that eludes most of us. It's very difficult.
Political So now what
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Well said.
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This would be one form of term limits. Good Idea. Then put them on SS like the rest of us.
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At 91 I think racing off road would be fun and easy and would still be competitive but it would have to be less than two hours. I think many of them are mentally capable but have been in office too long so something like 12 years in office and 70 years old. Ask some of the guys about my picking up trash when I was 82.
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Politicians are like diapers, they need changing often and for the same reason.
The two biggest dangers to the American system are party based voting and keeping incumbents.
The two biggest dangers to the American system are party based voting and keeping incumbents.
Have to say the current shenanigans trying to alter the amount of votes needed is pretty high danger as well
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I started working on computers in 1957 and the only problem is the new dictionary that has to be learned every few years.
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Average age of signers of Constitution was 44, the youngest 26 and oldest 79 and 81. Most of the early politicians used self imposed term limits and wanted to return to there home and families. Makes you wonder about the greed and pride/ego of present day polliticians.
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The vote them all out sounds good in theory, but when all the candidates sound insane you better be writing in Donald duck.
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- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
Or at least a driving test in leu of a mental capacity test.
Maybe we could throw them a surprise water balloon once and a while. If they catch it, good to go. If not, you're out.
Do you call it car camping or “overlanding” 🤣
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This is worth a read.
One of the worst affronts to the collective dignity of a supposedly “free society” is the active undermining of the expression of free voices via the vote. Shockingly, otherwise reasonable
and rational Americans actually entertain irrational talking points that will disempower voters by disenfranchising most American citizens under the guise of new “voters’ rights.” Make no mistake, the newfangled “voters’ rights legislation” is specifically designed to utterly disempower, not empower and encourage voters’ rights!
New “voters’ rights legislation,” cynically named the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, is a scheme designed to deliver federally-prescribed political outcomes. The Act is expressly designed to assure the will and desires of American citizens are not freely expressed through the ballot box. Such legislation is regressive and dangerous to our democratic republic.
Here’s why. Currently, States have the sole authority to conduct and ensure the validity of their elections. The Act snatches away the States’ authority, giving ultimate unlimited governing power over the voting process to the Federal government. The Federal government commandeers oversight of when elections are conducted, where conducted, how ballots are delivered and collected, who gets ballots and what systems or infrastructure to use to tally the final vote counts. This is obviously a tremendous amount of power!
History confirms: Collecting and moving this amount of information coordination (hundreds of millions of data points in one to two days) is much more efficient when carried out at the State level. Why would the Federal government want to take over this behemoth 50-state project? Why are federal power groups willing to fight so hard (even by terminating the Senate’s filibuster rule) to get this done? The logical answer: They seek to wield more control over the outcomes of elections far into the future!
Evidently, the Federal government doesn’t want to ensure hearing the will and desires of voters that make a democratic republic, and they want to move toward outcomes that follow certain desired trends. The Act will enable the placement of unmanned ballot boxes and vote “harvesting” procedures, potentially fraudulent online or mailbox/mail-in systems, and permitting non-citizens to vote (thereby canceling the votes of citizens). The results of the Act’s power-grab, ironically, will guarantee voter disenfranchisement for all American citizen voters.
In the past, voter disenfranchisement usually meant any barriers that disproportionately prevented certain communities from expressing themselves via their vote. Often, people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would express outrage about Blacks being disenfranchised when seemingly onerous conditions, such as voter identity cards and the lack of convenient access to voting booths/stations, imposed unequal treatment of the Black community as compared to other communities. Today, for all intents and purposes, American citizens over the age of 18 who are not convicted felons can easily vote! Most (if not all) States offer free identification for citizens who don’t possess a driver’s license. Recycled old tropes about Blacks not being able to get access to IDs are untrue, racist and demeaning. In today’s world, you cannot survive without an ID. Last century’s specific voter disenfranchisement issues related to voter IDs are effectively gone.
Bizarrely, the John Lewis Act seeks to move voter disenfranchisement from specific to systemic. Instead of mitigating any remaining specific instances of voter disenfranchisement, certain power groups in the Federal government aim to implement systemic changes that will ultimately disenfranchise every American voter. This legislation will effectively allow votes made up of dead people, duplicate ballots, illegal/migrant voters (non-citizens), and people who have moved out of the jurisdiction. Since every illegal or fraudulent vote neutralizes every legal citizen vote, this Federal voting rights legislation that also encourages “ballot harvesting,” mail-in ballots, no citizenship or ID requirements, and reliance upon unreliable voting machines/infrastructure, the new laws will effectively disenfranchise all American citizens under the guise of “progress.” Can willful systemic disenfranchisement be any more obvious?
In a democratic republic, all votes matter. All citizen voters are disenfranchised when illegal votes are encouraged and counted (even if the Federal government is sponsoring it). Every Black Life Matters (EBLM) resolutely demands integrity and full transparency in our electoral processes.
Every legal vote and every voter matters to our ability to successfully move forward as a country. That’s why Every Black Life Matters stands against all fraud, cheating, and undermining of American voices at the ballot box. Therefore, we publicly denounce the deceptively-named John Lewis Voting Rights Act! This Act undermines the U.S. Constitution and invades the province of States’ authority. Please stand with us as we oppose all manner of systemic voter disenfranchisement. EBLM unequivocally demands the universal embrace of the highest levels of voter integrity in U.S. elections. Stand with us against this Act!
- Kevin McGary, President of Every Black Life Matters
- 3 hours ago
- 3 min read
Renewed "voter rights legislation" demand is systemic government voter disenfranchisement!
One of the worst affronts to the collective dignity of a supposedly “free society” is the active undermining of the expression of free voices via the vote. Shockingly, otherwise reasonable
and rational Americans actually entertain irrational talking points that will disempower voters by disenfranchising most American citizens under the guise of new “voters’ rights.” Make no mistake, the newfangled “voters’ rights legislation” is specifically designed to utterly disempower, not empower and encourage voters’ rights!
New “voters’ rights legislation,” cynically named the John Lewis Voting Rights Act, is a scheme designed to deliver federally-prescribed political outcomes. The Act is expressly designed to assure the will and desires of American citizens are not freely expressed through the ballot box. Such legislation is regressive and dangerous to our democratic republic.
Here’s why. Currently, States have the sole authority to conduct and ensure the validity of their elections. The Act snatches away the States’ authority, giving ultimate unlimited governing power over the voting process to the Federal government. The Federal government commandeers oversight of when elections are conducted, where conducted, how ballots are delivered and collected, who gets ballots and what systems or infrastructure to use to tally the final vote counts. This is obviously a tremendous amount of power!
History confirms: Collecting and moving this amount of information coordination (hundreds of millions of data points in one to two days) is much more efficient when carried out at the State level. Why would the Federal government want to take over this behemoth 50-state project? Why are federal power groups willing to fight so hard (even by terminating the Senate’s filibuster rule) to get this done? The logical answer: They seek to wield more control over the outcomes of elections far into the future!
Evidently, the Federal government doesn’t want to ensure hearing the will and desires of voters that make a democratic republic, and they want to move toward outcomes that follow certain desired trends. The Act will enable the placement of unmanned ballot boxes and vote “harvesting” procedures, potentially fraudulent online or mailbox/mail-in systems, and permitting non-citizens to vote (thereby canceling the votes of citizens). The results of the Act’s power-grab, ironically, will guarantee voter disenfranchisement for all American citizen voters.
In the past, voter disenfranchisement usually meant any barriers that disproportionately prevented certain communities from expressing themselves via their vote. Often, people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would express outrage about Blacks being disenfranchised when seemingly onerous conditions, such as voter identity cards and the lack of convenient access to voting booths/stations, imposed unequal treatment of the Black community as compared to other communities. Today, for all intents and purposes, American citizens over the age of 18 who are not convicted felons can easily vote! Most (if not all) States offer free identification for citizens who don’t possess a driver’s license. Recycled old tropes about Blacks not being able to get access to IDs are untrue, racist and demeaning. In today’s world, you cannot survive without an ID. Last century’s specific voter disenfranchisement issues related to voter IDs are effectively gone.
Bizarrely, the John Lewis Act seeks to move voter disenfranchisement from specific to systemic. Instead of mitigating any remaining specific instances of voter disenfranchisement, certain power groups in the Federal government aim to implement systemic changes that will ultimately disenfranchise every American voter. This legislation will effectively allow votes made up of dead people, duplicate ballots, illegal/migrant voters (non-citizens), and people who have moved out of the jurisdiction. Since every illegal or fraudulent vote neutralizes every legal citizen vote, this Federal voting rights legislation that also encourages “ballot harvesting,” mail-in ballots, no citizenship or ID requirements, and reliance upon unreliable voting machines/infrastructure, the new laws will effectively disenfranchise all American citizens under the guise of “progress.” Can willful systemic disenfranchisement be any more obvious?
In a democratic republic, all votes matter. All citizen voters are disenfranchised when illegal votes are encouraged and counted (even if the Federal government is sponsoring it). Every Black Life Matters (EBLM) resolutely demands integrity and full transparency in our electoral processes.
Every legal vote and every voter matters to our ability to successfully move forward as a country. That’s why Every Black Life Matters stands against all fraud, cheating, and undermining of American voices at the ballot box. Therefore, we publicly denounce the deceptively-named John Lewis Voting Rights Act! This Act undermines the U.S. Constitution and invades the province of States’ authority. Please stand with us as we oppose all manner of systemic voter disenfranchisement. EBLM unequivocally demands the universal embrace of the highest levels of voter integrity in U.S. elections. Stand with us against this Act!
- African-American voters
- 2021 Virginia elections
- Kevin McGary
- Every Black Life Matters
- Barack Obama
- John Lewis Voting Rights Act
- Stacey Abrams
- Critical race theory
- FBI parents
- H.R. 5746
- January 17 deadline
Spork
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- Saratoga Springs, UT
On Martin Luther King day it's important to reflect on the impact he has...
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- Grantsville, Utah
W T F?
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- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
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- Riverton, UT
Did you get my list of sources? Daily Signal, Hoover Institute, Hillsdale College Imprimis news, Judicial Watch, and Epoch Times.
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- Riverton, UT
This would cancel out Roosevelt, Ford, and Biden.
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- Sandy, Ut
There are two types of people in this world, those that have thrown away a pair of underwear and those that lie about it. Sadly I‘d never reach the ranks of president under your popularity contest. I like snorkels and I’m honest.
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- South Carolina....no public land
Yes, thank you.