Political So now what
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We had some students complaining a lot about one of the two trailers we use for pre-trip training. The landing gear is a little more difficult to crank up and down than the other trailer. It’s nothing out of the ordinary, and it’s not as difficult as cranking up/down a loaded trailer. Both trailers are empty, and they are required to raise and lower the gear for their assessments.
Two of the students were getting pretty loopy with me about it. These are grown men, 28-40 years old. Kept telling them it was normal and they will see it in the field. The students kept going out of their way to not pre-trip that one trailer. Finally I said “Both of these trailers were pre-trip’d by over 100 driver applicants last month and we had zero complaints. Some of those applicants were women. No complaints at all”. And that shut them up, finally.
I got some push back from one HR clerk about it and I replied with “everything I said was factual. I gave them perspective”.
If they complain again, I’ll swap out those trailers with older trailers with bent landing gear.
Two of the students were getting pretty loopy with me about it. These are grown men, 28-40 years old. Kept telling them it was normal and they will see it in the field. The students kept going out of their way to not pre-trip that one trailer. Finally I said “Both of these trailers were pre-trip’d by over 100 driver applicants last month and we had zero complaints. Some of those applicants were women. No complaints at all”. And that shut them up, finally.
I got some push back from one HR clerk about it and I replied with “everything I said was factual. I gave them perspective”.
If they complain again, I’ll swap out those trailers with older trailers with bent landing gear.
Houndoc
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Obviously things can go too far in any direction and I do agree that being "too soft" as a society helps no one.
However just because we cannot relate or understand what someone is going through does not make it less real.
Some comments in this political thread seem counter productive to the mental health thread.
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Thursty
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There’s a big difference between actual trauma and manufactured trauma. Those who seek out trauma and scream it to the hills every time they’ve been triggered “suffer” from the later and should be called out. It takes away from those who are actually suffering.
Agree a lot of mental health is real. But that posted video is laughable to me. “She” read every thing that is cool to be triggered by, dwelled on it for months and induced her fake illnesses to a real level all on “her” own
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"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times."
We're living in the later for sure.
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“Fools multiply, when wise men are silent.”
I disagree, the mental health thread is a solid reminder that real people have real issues and that video shows that ridiculous people abuse their right to cry about anything and everything. Also, they make it harder for real people with real issues to access the help they need.
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Houndoc
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My point is simply that as none of us (to my knowledge) are qualified mental health professionals, it is not really our role to declare what is and is not "real" issues.
I'm tired of this net. Some things don't require a "qualified professional" when it's obvious on the face of it.
"Qualified Professionals" (tm) also told us that there was no such thing as natural immunity a couple years ago. They can all go stuff themselves.
I'd argue that a huge part of societal issues is that we've offloaded common sense to "qualified professionals".
Thursty
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In some professions you spend enough time working around the not-so-general public you become a qualified professional. There’s a reason the officer in that video handled that situation so well.
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Exactly. We don’t always require “Qualified Professionals” to see what’s obvious. I’m not a Qualified Professional welder, but I can do some pretty decent welding.
When it comes to the "qualified professional" it usually always refers to the academic side. I guarantee a redneck in the backwoods is gonna lay a better weld bead on his cattle gate than somebody who studied metallurgy and technique at university but has no real field experience. Sadly, that uni asshole will become some welders boss and make his life a living nightmare.
02SE
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In regards to the video of the triggered "binary" woman. I might be more sympathetic if she didn't assume the pronoun the police officer wished to be addressed with. At that point she is just a hypocrite, looking for an excuse out of her self-induced predicament.
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"Triggered" in this context means "I get upset when I'm held accountable by cops for driving drunk."
Well no kidding.
That's not a mental health issue. Too many folks believe that they should be in a state of perpetual peace and tranquility and anyone who disturbs that should be punished. "My rights trump your rights mentality."
There is no protected right to not get upset. We shouldn't go around pissing people off but it's not others responsibility to tiptoe around others.
Maybe the goal here for 2024 can be to learn to disagree without being disagreeable.
Just like working out excersises your muscles-tribulation excersises your mental toughness.
Well no kidding.
That's not a mental health issue. Too many folks believe that they should be in a state of perpetual peace and tranquility and anyone who disturbs that should be punished. "My rights trump your rights mentality."
There is no protected right to not get upset. We shouldn't go around pissing people off but it's not others responsibility to tiptoe around others.
Maybe the goal here for 2024 can be to learn to disagree without being disagreeable.
Just like working out excersises your muscles-tribulation excersises your mental toughness.
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glockman
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You should read Coddling of the American mind, written by a qualified mental health professional. Or listen to some of the more outspoken psychologists. They tell you that you don't treat people with a mental health issue, like anxiety by sheltering them from all possible sources of anxiety. That is the popular opinion among people who are not mental health professionals. If this person is triggered by white people and she is white, she needs to be incrementally exposed to more white people in order to overcome her illogical fear.
Second, resources of all types are limited. If you have the appropriate goal, which is to reduce human suffering to the lowest extent you can, your resources are wasted on people like the person in this video. Spend time and money helping people who don't have clean water or sewage treatment, not the real or imagined mental illness of someone in the top 1% of privilege in the world.
02SE
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Epstein List Hangs Itself Moments Before Release
U.S.·Jan 2, 2024 · BabylonBee.com
U.S. — In a shocking turn of events, the Epstein List was found hanging in a secure document storage facility this morning, according to local authorities.
"This is such a tragedy for many of us who desperately wanted to know who was on that list," said former Presidential candidate and document security expert Hillary Clinton. "Now we'll sadly never know. My thoughts and prayers are with the family of this 'Epstein List,' may it rest in peace."
Authorities confirmed the list was found hanging by a rope tied to an overhead beam, and that it had killed itself completely of its own accord.
The list was cremated and buried this morning.
U.S.·Jan 2, 2024 · BabylonBee.com
U.S. — In a shocking turn of events, the Epstein List was found hanging in a secure document storage facility this morning, according to local authorities.
"This is such a tragedy for many of us who desperately wanted to know who was on that list," said former Presidential candidate and document security expert Hillary Clinton. "Now we'll sadly never know. My thoughts and prayers are with the family of this 'Epstein List,' may it rest in peace."
Authorities confirmed the list was found hanging by a rope tied to an overhead beam, and that it had killed itself completely of its own accord.
The list was cremated and buried this morning.
My hatred for Patagonia is well documented and this just makes me hate them more. To think of our tax dollars paying for their overpriced crap… 😡
glockman
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Long history of the .gov buying gear that no reasonable person would buy. Years ago I was hot after a pair of helicopter flight pants for ADV moto riding. They were flame/melt resistant fabric so they were perfect for sliding on asphalt. The new ones were like $1k per pair. Who would pay that other than the .gov? The surplus ones were under $100 but like Vidmar cabinets the surplus was being snatched up by private resellers who were scalping.