I've ridden a lot of places and with a lot of different types of riders. That said, yesterdays ride with Russ and Cheston was probably the most extreme ride I have done. The first 6 miles took 2 hours with no stops to chat. At one point we had to walk bikes across a cliff with 3 people holding the bikes from sliding 70 feet down the rock. All said and done it was a blast. I was seriously challenging my riding ability for most of the ride. I was super proud of my dad. He rode 58 miles with at least 20 of those being difficult miles. He endo'd once and went over backwards a few times. He turns 60 next week. Thanks for an awesome day Russ.