sixstringsteve
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I know i'm late to the party here steve but, why not do snakes as the Noob annual trail? It was the first trail my dad did in his 31 inch tire stock FJ62 and he had no problem. I think fire roads are great for week long back country trips but why not do more of a trail trail? I might be able to go either way but something to think about
because I don't want to
a lot of the noobs don't have sliders or bumpers or lifts or anything like that. So rather than make them feel excluded by telling them they can't come (or should expect body damage) I'm inviting them on a trail that they can all do. I promise it'll be fun to anyone who has never really been wheeling. I still love wheeling up there. Some of the noobs have stock fullsize broncos, some have stock jeeps, some have lifted rigs with lockers front and rear on 33's. this is a trail everyone can complete, and I'm sure they'll all still have fun. Plus, even if nobody's got any experience wheeling, this will be a good learning experience. I know for a fact that taking some stock rigs, with noob drivers, on rattlesnake for their first run will scare them, and can do more harm than good.
I scheduled it here for 6 reasons
1) ANY rig can complete the trail without body damage
2) it's close to civilization
3) if anyone does have mechanical or other failures, you can get a tow rig in there to get it out
4) it's going to be at night, so I wanted something mild that didn't require rock lights
5) it's a fun experience. I always take noobs out there first before snakes, and it's a great place to teach them and go over the basics and gain confidence before doing a trail trail.
6) did I mention it's a fun trail?
I'll schedule one at 5 mile in may (2 months later) for 3 reasons.
1) I will have a better idea of the rigs these new members have
2) I'll have a better idea of these noobies' abilities
2) it'll give the noobs 2 months to buy sliders before attempting rattlesnake.
whenever I post up a trip report, I put recommendations for equipment and someone always says "but I've done it with less of a lift, or a smaller tire size, or without a locker." These are recommendations. I remember the first time I did fins n things. I went with my friends, and they assured me my vehicle was capable enough to to it since they had taken more stockish vehicles. Well, I had lifted my rig, and hadn't re-geared it, so I wasn't geared low enough. I almost rolled on Ken's Climb, and I honestly wished that I hadn't done the trail because my rig wasn't ready. There's nothing worse than getting on a trail and realizing you're in over your head. I don't want to tell the noobs that they can do snakes stock because I know someone who has. I also know people who have busted a LOT of stock stuff on rattlesnake. Remember back to when you were a noob. We all cared about avoiding body damage at all costs. now we've loosened up a bit, but I'd hate to put a novice in that situation. Besides, they'll have PLENTY of time to do snakes in the future. I just want to start them out slow and easy and work up from there.
Even though these are just fire roads, I've taken lots of noobs up there before, and they've always had a blast, and I've never seen body damage or any other damage to a stock vehicle. I've still had fun up there in my yota on 37's. Sometimes it's all about getting out there instead of tackling huge obstacles. Don't get me wrong, I love fun trails that require more skill than a dirt road, but that's not what this trip is about.
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