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Alan - Thanks for that info. Our Land Use Officer (Marty) has been talking to SITLA regarding right-of-way issues, and this is information that he should know about. Would your activist friend be willing to talk to him? If he would, PM me and I'll get you Marty's email.

Sand Flats Recreation Area (part of Grand County, but administered by the BLM) has always maintained that ANYTHING that is not part of the marked Hells Revenge trail is off-limits to vehicles. While this technically even means the hot tubs, they seem to be most concerned about Hells Gate...

Actually tomorrow (Sunday) is when we will be GPS'ing the trail. I'll post the info when we get it. Yesterday afternoon, our land use officer and myself met at the trailhead with Lt. Dalton of the San Juan Sheriff's Office, and the fences came down! Well, at least some of them. The fence...

Brett, that's great to hear! Keep me posted as to how I can help. Jeff