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That is a great area....surprised that part of the Skyline is still snowed over.

I guess only time will tell. The biggest point is that corn is not the only source that will work, most any plant material has potential, including the wasted material left from farming. It will be interesting and of course I do not expect it to ever replace all the oil now used.

I understand the basic idea of the "Moab" trail rating scale, but not sure just how it falls on real trails. The Wells' book on Moab trails lists the trails in order of difficulty (in his opinion), but rates differently. Based on the list on page 8 of his book, where would you put cut off...

Here is one link I could find on a quick search of the US Dept of Ag web site (http://www.usda.gov)...they also have a link to an article about economics of ethanol production from sugar. Gives some interesting production cost info on ethanol both from sugar (which is the main source in Brazil)...

Nope, the Jensen visitor center outside Vernal (the one that you go in and can see the fossils still on the side of the cliff). My kids love trips to "Dinosaur Land", so I hope it is open before our next trip (07?)

I think you have food production/intake confused with other resources, but even with that the 95/5 seems too extreme (although the 5% world population is about right). One of the programs is the CRP (conservation reserve program or something like that). pays farmers to keep fields idle, both...

Here are my thoughts/understanding on alternative fuels 1) Ethanol (E85) Availinility should follow demand. With most newer GM vehicles (such as my 04 Yukon XL) able to run on it, I think more places will start to sell it over the coming years. If not, we are not out siginificant money in...

Glad you finally got out. Reports like that remind me of why I don't want an older trail rig. Granted things can go wrong in any vehicle, but the odds certainly go up over time.

Agreed.

The one factor that I have not seen answered is how hard of wheeling you intend to do. Could have you "needing" anything from stock to lockers. I would say there is no need to buy alot more than what you need now as you can always upgrade as you go and you will have alot more options on...

I would appreciate an update once you find out what is going on. If he is legal, he is owed alot of appologies by folks jumping the gun. If not, lets hope some pressure helps him and others reading his posts learn. And I agree with Scoutabout that the automatic club bashing is pretty lame...

I think this is the biggest issue to the general public. If a road/trail has been open for years across private land, it usually cannot be closed off. In most cases seven years of use creates a right of way (at least with some in-city issues we dealt with at work.) Does anyone here know how...

The scar of the pipeline is pretty obvious, so would think that would help locate it....except it runs all the way up and over the top, so still pleanty of possibilities. If someone finds it, lets see some pics!

Good to have you wander on over from Kansas. I don't know if you have spent much time in the area at all, but like has been said it will be very hot, very little shade and the rocks really catch the heat. Heat stroke and dehydration are realy dangers if you are not well prepared. Make sure...

That was my guess.:redneck:

Of course there is but one way to find out....

Right you are. Odd. (meaning the wieght difference, not you being right:mad: )

I don't think my towing is such that 400# is that critical (will be towing a 2-3 horse trailer, plus horse of course. Estimate 6k), but since the vehicle is generally the same, (body, frame, engine, tranny, axle etc) the diffrence is odd. I suspect the suspension (when I have a minute will...

There is a very interesting article in the June 1 Tooele Transcript Bulletin (unfortunately not on the web site so I can't link it) about private land owners wanting to block off trail access, foot, ATV and assume vehicle, to alot of areas in the Ophir area (esp Soldier Canyon-Jacob City)...