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Definitely historic. Harris has little chance against Trump. Trump will surely stoop to calling her some crazy names, and she’ll surely cackle and screech back.
Political So now what
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I dunno. This is all nuts. The Democratic Party and its media allies have two choices here. Show unity and solidarity by rallying around Harris and doing everything they can to rehabilitate her image since she is currently the most unpopular VP in history. OR they can fight it out and tear themselves apart.
The DNC it's a deeply conflicted and fractious coalition of interests. If you think the GOP has division, oh boy delve into the various caucuses in the DNC and you'll realize that the GOP is pretty ideologically aligned by comparison. The difference is that they're way better at hiding it. So if they decide on a convention fight, it's gonna get ugly.
To answer your question, if they do it "right" and unify around Harris, she's got a 60% chance of beating Trump I think. While she's deeply unpopular, most voters still aren't super familiar with her; so there's a huge opportunity to "reintroduce" her. Also, she'll get to play the race and gender card.
If they fight it out and we end up with a Newsom, Whitmer, Pritzler, or X; it's back to 50/50 for President, but I think they'll suffer down ballot a lot from the image of a party in chaos.
Again, this is all because Trump is a terrible candidate in his own right. If the GOP has nominated literally anyone else, we'd be looking at a 1984 style landslide for them right now.
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I don't think so. Between this fiasco and him surviving the assassination attempt, he's got momentum for days. I can't imagine what would happen to derail him now. But I guess I couldn't have imagined what's happened in the past couple weeks either, so... ?
I really think somebody could drop photo evidence of him screwing teenage girls on Epstein's island and he'd still win. I think Putin could come out tomorrow and baldly admit that Trump is in his pocket and doing his bidding and he'd still win. I think I could jump up on stage and pull his mask off and prove to the world that he's a lizard people, and he'd still win. That's how badly Biden and the Dems have cocked this up.
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Yes it is. I've been outside in full sun digging out an area for a new sandbox for my boys. 🥵
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Bro, stay hydrated. With BeWilder, of course.
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The other thing we have to consider is the Ohio ballot deadline of August 7th. The DNC is August 19th and they were going to do a virtual delegate roll call this week to make sure Biden was on the ballot. Now what?
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Dude, I should not be doing this now, but it's got to get done so these Tasmanian devils of mine stop destroying the flower beds and garden!
I know her numbers are bad, but is it because she's done something bad or just because she's kind of taken a back seat and people haven't heard much from her. I know I haven't. The few people from California I know that are pretty conservative mind you, absolutely hate her but do the more liberal Californians hate her too.
To me, as nobody, they should really capitalize on her not being all that well known and try to position her a bit more moderately, but I suspect they'll do the opposite.
As was said, there is literally nothing Trump could do, short of publicly murdering children, to change how the Trumpies view him but I'd have to imagine Harris will make him look pretty silly in a debate. I mean, she has to have a pulse and that's about all it should take. Problem is, the Trumpies don't really bother themselves with things like logic or facts, so they won't care if she fights his grandstanding and hyperbole with actual information because they just like the sound of what he says.
To me, as nobody, they should really capitalize on her not being all that well known and try to position her a bit more moderately, but I suspect they'll do the opposite.
As was said, there is literally nothing Trump could do, short of publicly murdering children, to change how the Trumpies view him but I'd have to imagine Harris will make him look pretty silly in a debate. I mean, she has to have a pulse and that's about all it should take. Problem is, the Trumpies don't really bother themselves with things like logic or facts, so they won't care if she fights his grandstanding and hyperbole with actual information because they just like the sound of what he says.
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I'm not in front of a keyboard, so I can reply to all the reasons she's disliked nearly universally, but I will say that if you watch any of her public... speaking? I don't think she can make anyone look sillier than herself. In fact, I suspect they'll avoid trying to do a debate just so she can't go off script and start rambling. She's perhaps more lucid than Biden, but she doesn't make any more sense!
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She's so bad at public speaking.
(And no, this is not an endorsement of Fox News. It's just the first video I found.)
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I mean, according to Democrats she's already beat Trump once in 2016, she can do it again! 🤣
Trate D
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I really think the “Trumpies” are the same as the complete non-Trumpies. They will do anything but admit one good policy or 1 good foreign relation that Trump had.
For me it’s the all the same everyone just picks a different roof top and screams from it. The die hard Trump fans will show you on the doll where they want to touch him, The die hard non-Trump fans refuse to show you on the doll where Trump touched them….
For me it’s the all the same everyone just picks a different roof top and screams from it. The die hard Trump fans will show you on the doll where they want to touch him, The die hard non-Trump fans refuse to show you on the doll where Trump touched them….
J Kimmel
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Good to know democrats killed off the primaries for Joe, and told us he’s sharper than ever, and in fact it’s hard to keep up with him he’s so focused only to bow out at the 11th hour for what we all knew.
Rally behind the cackler
Rally behind the cackler
johngottfredson
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No chance they win with Harris, even if they unify. They only win if they do something that truly shakes things up and puts in someone as exciting (to dems and/or moderates) as Trump is to his people.
Bernie Sanders, Michelle Obama…. Mark Cuban….Dwayne Johnson…
Bernie Sanders, Michelle Obama…. Mark Cuban….Dwayne Johnson…
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Bernie would make it interesting, for sure.
If nothing else, the street brawls between the brownshirts and the antifa crowd would be amazing.
If nothing else, the street brawls between the brownshirts and the antifa crowd would be amazing.