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I've found not paying attention to the media to be an excellent solution.

It is funny though, even in what little media I have consumed we're already watching him walk things back after his campaign, and switch from the his absolutist rhetoric to something more loose and elusive (like his morality, I guess) now that he might be held accountable for the things he promises.

I still can't wait for elections to be eliminated though. What a relief that will be.
Herzog said:
.....for not getting the jab.
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Totally no extreme bias at all in your take on this. ;)
 
Herzog said:
Is this what WokeAnon is saying?
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No. Trump said that. Wait, is Trump WokeAnon? In that case, yes. I can't keep up with this stuff.
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maybe bias in me calling it a “jab” because I don’t believe mRNA gene therapy to be a vaccine. But other than that it was completely factual.
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Do you know a lot about mrna or gene therapy? Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like most people with strongly formed opinions about the merits of mrna therapies and their potential applications probably spent a decade or more studying hard sciences and working directly with things like mrna. They probably didn't pick up their expertise from Babylon Bee. Maybe that's a hot take?

I mean, I had someone tell me they didn't believe an IPA to be a beer. Unqualified people make all sorts of claims that they really know very little about. Lot's of people believe them to be true because it sounds right. Some people make fun of those people. That's what makes the internet fun! It's the wild west out there.
 
Cody said:
No. Trump said that. Wait, is Trump WokeAnon? In that case, yes. I can't keep up with this stuff.

Do you know a lot about mrna or gene therapy? Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like most people with strongly formed opinions about the merits of mrna therapies and their potential applications probably spent a decade or more studying hard sciences and working directly with things like mrna. They probably didn't pick up their expertise from Babylon Bee. Maybe that's a hot take?

I mean, I had someone tell me they didn't believe an IPA to be a beer. Unqualified people make all sorts of claims that they really know very little about. Lot's of people believe them to be true because it sounds right. Some people make fun of those people. That's what makes the internet fun! It's the wild west out there.
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I’ve read enough books and research to be able to form that opinion on my own. I think my stance is more scientific than “the science is settled” gaslight that was repeated by every Reddit user in every corner of the internet.

I have no obligation to convince you nor do I care to anyways.

Plus, I agree. IPA isn’t beer (edit: it's piss)
 
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Herzog said:
I’ve read enough books and research to be able to form that opinion on my own. I think my stance is more scientific than “the science is settled” gaslight that was repeated by every Reddit user in every corner of the internet.

I have no obligation to convince you nor do I care to anyways.

Plus, I agree. IPA isn’t beer (edit: it's piss)
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But it's just an opinion. You're not an expert on mrna or vaccines....or beer. You're probably closer to being an expert about beer (mostly because beer is pretty simple to figure out).

Context is important and there is a deference between qualified and unqualified opinions. In my opinion, it's an important difference. Unfortunately that context is all too often missing from the internet.

I have opinions about how semi truck drivers should drive. Should Hickey listen to my advice, or take my opinions seriously, knowing I've never driven one in my life? Absolutely not.

If I give you my strong opinion about computer networking or anything IT related, would it mean anything to you? Absolutely not. I could read a bunch of books about it for the next 2 years and form some opinions about what works or doesn't, but you and I both would know that I still don't know shit because I've never done it.

So of course everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone else can decide whether that opinion is relevant based on what they know (or believe) about the source. But let's not confuse opinion with fact.
 
Cody said:
But it's just an opinion. You're not an expert on mrna or vaccines....or beer. You're probably closer to being an expert about beer (mostly because beer is pretty simple to figure out).

Context is important and there is a deference between qualified and unqualified opinions. In my opinion, it's an important difference. Unfortunately that context is all too often missing from the internet.

I have opinions about how semi truck drivers should drive. Should Hickey listen to my advice, or take my opinions seriously, knowing I've never driven one in my life? Absolutely not.

If I give you my strong opinion about computer networking or anything IT related, would it mean anything to you? Absolutely not. I could read a bunch of books about it for the next 2 years and form some opinions about what works or doesn't, but you and I both would know that I still don't know shit because I've never done it.

So of course everyone is entitled to an opinion, and everyone else can decide whether that opinion is relevant based on what they know (or believe) about the source. But let's not confuse opinion with fact.
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I literally said it was my opinion. I made zero claims.

And I have zero regrets so far.
 
I think you're just afraid of needles. ;)

I got myself sidetracked there ha ha. My original point/thought was about the irony of criticizing someone's politically colored verbiage whilst also using it yourself.

Back to the troll pit with me!
 
Cody said:
You're not an expert on mrna or vaccines
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Alright, let's do this.

You are stating that we should only trust the qualified opinions of experts in their field. At first glance, this seems like perfectly logical reasoning. Who wouldn't trust the experts? They're the ones that have spent a large chunk of their time and money into knowing all things about their field, right? Ok, that's great... but what happens when they betray that trust? Better yet, what happens when common sense can sniff out the bullshit?

Quick example. Traditional vaccines are based on a simple principle of (gasp) homeopathy. A small amount of something to illicit a reaction of the immune system in order to build anti-bodies. Amazing. One and done for life (for the most part, traditionally speaking)

Now we have this amazing mRNA technology that will cause your body to create spike proteins. Very cool! So it was extensively tested right? No? Ok that's pretty suspicious. Oh, you're going to try to madate it and protect the manufacture from any liability? That's pretty suspicious too... Oh, you're going to spread talking points across media to try to influence the community to turn on people to don't want to take this experiement? That's really ****ing suspicious. Oh, you're going to require people to have to come back and get constant 'boosters'? ... on and on an on.

So no, I don't need an 'expert' to tell me when the kitchen is on ****ing fire dude.
 
glockman said:
This is the way. I just barely found out about the fires in Cali.
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This is the only place I've heard anything about Canada or Greenland or any of that. Haven't heard enough here to have much of an idea what y'all are actually talking about. But haven't heard enough to give a shit and try to find out either.

This is also the first place I heard anything about the California fires. But it's been getting mentioned in other places now too. But it's California, so, burn baby burn is about as much thought as I'm going to give it.

- DAA
 
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This is the only place I've heard anything about Canada or Greenland or any of that. Haven't heard enough here to have much of an idea what y'all are actually talking about. But haven't heard enough to give a shit and try to find out either.

This is also the first place I heard anything about the California fires. But it's been getting mentioned in other places now too. But it's California, so, burn baby burn is about as much thought as I'm going to give it.

- DAA
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I find no personal joy in Southern Cal and the elitist attitude of some from there (especially the "Hollywood" types) but those fires are pretty horrific.
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East of Lake Oroville in California
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Pacific Palisades has been completely devastated by the Palisades Fire. This footage was sent in from the individual who took it, showing the destruction that took place in his neighborhood. 🙏 The attached photo shows neighborhood after neighborhood that were burned to the ground.

Some reports are saying nearly 75% of the community has been destroyed. Fire Managers on the Eaton Fire have reported 5 civilian fatalities, and expect more. It will take time to account for everyone that has evacuated and go house to house with searches until a final number can be released.

There are already statements being made that the California FAIR Plan, the insurer of last resort, and insurance companies may not have the immense amount of capital to cover the losses. This is something I warned about last year, as the STATE’s FAIR Plan was oversubscribed and completely dependent on other policy holders.

I said it would take one big fire through a community to bankrupt the entire system, little did I know it would come less than a year later. The after effects of this will be felt years.

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I've heard about the uninsurable areas for a few years now. (California, Florida, Louisiana, etc) In the case of CA, I can't help but wonder if there are some .gov policies that have been changed through the decades that contribute to the potential catastrophic devastation? The Paradise fire in Nor Cal a few years ago was BAD. This seems amazing. I'm curious to see a comparison (which I doubt we will). In the past, I've read that the area that these types of houses are built in are areas prone to this kind of fire. Not a big deal if there aren't 10,000+ homes/structures.

I then wonder if Utah/Wasatch Front/Back has similar issues? Being that our legislature seemingly worships many things the CA folks do, at least when it comes to real estate development, I suspect so. The Bountiful fire that destroyed 3 homes a few years ago (and that cute little MJ I sold that was in the garage of one of the homes) makes you wonder how this kind of issue would go here. We don't have the Santa Ana winds but we do get some winds at times.


Not my most trusted "news" source but interesting reading about the Santa Ana winds and such. The fact that this affects the elite will be interesting to gauge response by various organizations.
 
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The impacts of fire risk are spreading into Utah. Insurance companies have identified places through the state that are at high risk for Grass fires. Rates have gone up for people in those areas and some companies have dropped fire coverage. A friend of mines son has a place in Park Ciity and got notice this past fall that his then insurance company would not cover him any longer due to risk of rangeland fires.
 
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