UURRRGG tearing sh$# up

[xjshorty21]

That's no excuse at all. Why didn't you and your group say something to this irresponsible user? I keep hearing bad stuff about the Lostboyz, hope you guys are serious about rooting out the trouble makers in your group.

Xploderkid97 and i did try we recieved the same f off attitude if you read his post ... i try to keep everyone in my club on the right path of being friendly and excited about wheeling with common respect to other wheelers and staying on the trail so we can keep them open... like i said before those kids were not with my club and i try to show them common respect but recieved the same attitude .... as for the trail clean up its in the plan tia from u4 and i have been chatting so you will see some action soon

 

[filippelli]

okay you know what he isnt the first or the last guy to do that we didnt put the only tire marks thru there i have seen people doing it since i moved to highland in 96 and i have seen a lot worse done up there

 

[Meat_]

okay you know what he isnt the first or the last guy to do that we didnt put the only tire marks thru there i have seen people doing it since i moved to highland in 96 and i have seen a lot worse done up there

That makes it ok?

 

[scoutabout]

as for the trail clean up its in the plan tia from u4 and i have been chatting so you will see some action soon

What kind of "clean up" are you planning? Did you

 

[filippelli]

im just saying over the years we arent the only group of people to do it im not saying its right but im saying why are we the only ones getting **** for it and you cant tell me you have never done something wrong up there

 

[jdub]

Pretty defensive filippelli,

You wake up AT 5?

 

[Meat_]

...you cant tell me you have never done something wrong up there

Yes I can.

 

[scoutabout]

im just saying over the years we arent the only group of people to do it im not saying its right but im saying why are we the only ones getting **** for it

So it was you driving off-trail and causing resource damage? That makes it easy for the law enforcement officer on the district, thanks for helping. Anyone who drives off-trail and causes damage gets **** for it here and any other respectable 4x4 forum. You're causing closure. Turn in your keys.

 

[Tacoma]

im just saying over the years we arent the only group of people to do it im not saying its right but im saying why are we the only ones getting **** for it and you cant tell me you have never done something wrong up there

You're getting stars for it because you're the ones in the hot seat today. ANYONE that f**ks with the trails around here, ESPECIALLY someplace with as much visibilty as AF, totally deserves it. Apparently you have no idea of all the work that's been done up there, and how fragile access really is, or you'd never open your mouth to whine that you were getting bashed here for it.

I can say that I've never done anything wrong up there.

 

[RuggedH2]

Last week.

 

[xjshorty21]

What kind of "clean up" are you planning? Did you

tia is leading a group up on sunday and he is going to check out what excatly i need to do for the trail and he is going to give me some ideas

 

[CJJ92yj]

Isn't there still a fence at the top of that hill that would somewhat discourage and let people know travel is expected to not be happening there? I know Utah 4x4 Club put on up early last year, maybe it got ripped down.

Anyhow...Some project ideas that may be noteworthy. I was in charge of the trail adoption last year for Utah 4x4 Club on that very trail. We got a few things accomplished and and ended up wanting to do more. I'm not 100% certain what the plans are this year as I haven't been very active there for a while...personal reasons. Great club though. Anyhow, at the end of last year we had a list of a few things we wanted to get done this year.

- Install some sort of signs around the perimeter of the lake telling people not to drive through the lake or around the East side. The trail map doesn not include a trail around the East side of the lake, and according to the FS rep I was working with last year, it shouldn't be driven on. Maybe you could get a few pressure treated posts and engrave some wood signs. Paint in traditional Forest Service colors (brown and yellow) and plant them in key locations. This could be a large project though.

- Rubber water shed barriers in the trail leading up to the lake could use some repair. A lot of these have been torn out of the road and need to be re-buried to shed water off the trail to prevent erosion damage.

- There's always a need to pull trash from the dispersed campsites, the trail, and around the perimeter of the lake.

- Build a fence. Get with the FS and Utah 4x4 Club and see what and where.

- Or just get with Utah 4x4 Club and see if there's anything you can do to help out with any plans they have. They have officially adopted the trail again this year and would have a great idea what needs done. Jodie VanZant (JoJo) is in charge of the trail this year I believe. IF not, get with Roger or GravesdiggerXJ. Those two will be able to get you in contact with the proper persons there.

Good Luck. And thanks for stepping up to make things right.

 

[ALF]

im just saying over the years we arent the only group of people to do it im not saying its right but im saying why are we the only ones getting **** for it and you cant tell me you have never done something wrong up there

Pretty simply answer to this question is YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER!! Your a offroad club or are the lostboyz all about looking cool and really have no concern about protecting trail closure and protecting the enviroment. If thats the case maybe you should be a car club and stay on the road and leave the responsible wheeling to us! If you don't know better educate yourselves.

 

[1\4elliptic toy]

im just saying over the years we arent the only group of people to do it

You are 100 percent right, You guys are not the only ones to pound one more nail in "the coffin of trail closures" but today you were caught with the nail and hammer in hand....accept that you ARE wrong.

im not saying its right

Why are you defending your actions then?

im saying why are we the only ones getting **** for it

Are you serious? There is not one person that would get away with that kind of behavior here, If anyone on this this board did what you guys did they would get the same (if not worse) beat down you guys are getting. Bottom line its up to YOU to make sure trails are open! If YOU don't take the time to educate YOURSELF about the area your wheeling in then YOU should not be there wheeling! Ignorance is NOT acceptable, it closes more trails than you can imagine.

you cant tell me you have never done something wrong up there

Once again, ARE YOU SERIOUS! you think because YOU guys trash our public lands that every member of a RESPONSIBLE 4X4 board has done the same thing? :-\

 

[scoutabout]

tia is leading a group up on sunday and he is going to check out what excatly i need to do for the trail and he is going to give me some ideas

??

Grab two dozen trash bags and hit dispersed camping sites until they are full. You'll be full half way up the canyon.

 

[allterrain]

It's all been said and thanks to all who defend our trails.
I know many of you like me, have spent years of blood sweat and tears up there to keep things open in the past- and it has worked. Several trails that the FS has been ready to close for numerous reasons have been kept open because we as a group have stepped up and taken action. We have met with the FS and shown them resource damage they were not even aware of because we are in the canyon and laid out a plan to get it taken care of.
Being trail cops when needed is all of our jobs and my hat is off to Strange Cowboy.

If any of the Lost Boys want a little history lesson on what has been done up there over the last 10 years and more by members of this board to keep those trails open for you, just PM me. I live in Cedar Hills too.

Learn the lesson and be part of the solution and let's go wheelin.

 

[Greg]

It's all been said and thanks to all who defend our trails.
I know many of you like me, have spent years of blood sweat and tears up there to keep things open in the past- and it has worked. Several trails that the FS has been ready to close for numerous reasons have been kept open because we as a group have stepped up and taken action. We have met with the FS and shown them resource damage they were not even aware of because we are in the canyon and laid out a plan to get it taken care of.
Being trail cops when needed is all of our jobs and my hat is off to Strange Cowboy.

If any of the Lost Boys want a little history lesson on what has been done up there over the last 10 years and more by members of this board to keep those trails open for you, just PM me. I live in Cedar Hills too.

Learn the lesson and be part of the solution and let's go wheelin.

Well said Alan.

 

[kbjames]

I was kinda hoping the lost boys would volunteer to bring the coffee and donuts for the next couple of runs this season. That would be a good "punishment"

AllTerrain,

I know everyone is passionate about this stuff, but when one steps up to the plate and admits thier wrong-doing, I don't see a point in continuning to hammer on them. It was refreshing to read your well crafted post on this subject.

 

[allterrain]

I was kinda hoping the lost boys would volunteer to bring the coffee and donuts for the next couple of runs this season. That would be a good "punishment"

AllTerrain,

I know everyone is passionate about this stuff, but when one steps up to the plate and admits thier wrong-doing, I don't see a point in continuning to hammer on them. It was refreshing to read your well crafted post on this subject.

No hammering intended. My comments were not meant to be personal attacks at all, I was just offering a little background on the canyon that we all enjoy.

 

[kbjames]

AllTerrain,

You must have mistook my comments or perhaps my F in 11th grade English is to blame in this case. I was trying to say your post was refreshing because it wasn't hammering on them and trying to encourage them to be good off-road citizens...unlike many of the previous posts that were more in-line with pouring salt in the wound!!