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Bone stock.
Wanted: Mazda Miata
- Thread starter sixstringsteve
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Bone stock.
sixstringsteve
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it depends on the class you want to run and how competitive you want to be. Just like jeeping, there are some guys that are WAY into it and have $40k into their car. Rule book here: http://www.scca.com/assets/2013 Solo Rules Book updated 5-1.pdf
Like Stephen said, they're plenty fun out of the box. A good aggressive alignment makes a huge difference. THe turn-in on these cars is insane. There's zero steering wheel play, and the littlest input makes a big difference in the car.
The stock class doesn't let you change much. Going off my old memory, you've got to run stock size tires, stock wheels, and stock suspension, with stock motor (no big exhaust, etc).
The next step up is the STR class (Street Touring Roadster). You'll race with the following cars:
M Roadster & M Coupe (1998-
2000)
Z3 (6-cyl, non-M)
Z4 (non-turbo, non-M)
Datsun
240Z
260Z
280Z
280ZX (non-turbo)
Honda
S2000
Mazda
Miata (non-turbo) (1994-2005)
MX-5 Miata (2006-13)
RX-7 GSL
RX-7 GSL-SE
RX-7 GXL
RX-7 GTU (1988)
Nissan
350Z
Pontiac
Fiero (V6)
Solstice (non-turbo)
Porsche
911 Carrera (3.2L) (1984-89)
911 SC (3.0L) (1978-83)
924
944 (non-turbo)
968
Toyota
MR2 Spyder
Saturn
Sky (non-turbo)
Assuming you're not going for a national title, they're plenty fun in stock form, but I plan on running in the STR class, where they allow mild engine add-ons (heaers, intake, etc), and pretty major suspension mods with sticky tires.
Suspension mods make the biggest difference. You really don't need to lower them all that much, they're already pretty low to the ground and the COG is low. Stiffer springs and beefier sway bars make a big difference. Eventually, I'll do springs, shocks, sway bars, wheels, and tires. I'm not trying to win the national title, I'm not dedicated enough to race every month and stay up on my points and all that. I just want to learn to drive better in a fun car.
Here's a good place to start with mods. You don't need to spend much $ to make it super capable.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Parts/Miata/Suspension/Packages.html
Like Stephen said, they're plenty fun out of the box. A good aggressive alignment makes a huge difference. THe turn-in on these cars is insane. There's zero steering wheel play, and the littlest input makes a big difference in the car.
The stock class doesn't let you change much. Going off my old memory, you've got to run stock size tires, stock wheels, and stock suspension, with stock motor (no big exhaust, etc).
The next step up is the STR class (Street Touring Roadster). You'll race with the following cars:
M Roadster & M Coupe (1998-
2000)
Z3 (6-cyl, non-M)
Z4 (non-turbo, non-M)
Datsun
240Z
260Z
280Z
280ZX (non-turbo)
Honda
S2000
Mazda
Miata (non-turbo) (1994-2005)
MX-5 Miata (2006-13)
RX-7 GSL
RX-7 GSL-SE
RX-7 GXL
RX-7 GTU (1988)
Nissan
350Z
Pontiac
Fiero (V6)
Solstice (non-turbo)
Porsche
911 Carrera (3.2L) (1984-89)
911 SC (3.0L) (1978-83)
924
944 (non-turbo)
968
Toyota
MR2 Spyder
Saturn
Sky (non-turbo)
Assuming you're not going for a national title, they're plenty fun in stock form, but I plan on running in the STR class, where they allow mild engine add-ons (heaers, intake, etc), and pretty major suspension mods with sticky tires.
Suspension mods make the biggest difference. You really don't need to lower them all that much, they're already pretty low to the ground and the COG is low. Stiffer springs and beefier sway bars make a big difference. Eventually, I'll do springs, shocks, sway bars, wheels, and tires. I'm not trying to win the national title, I'm not dedicated enough to race every month and stay up on my points and all that. I just want to learn to drive better in a fun car.
Here's a good place to start with mods. You don't need to spend much $ to make it super capable.
http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Parts/Miata/Suspension/Packages.html
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sixstringsteve
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So it's not a torsen diff?
sixstringsteve
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honestly, you could autocross any car. It's fun no matter what. There are lots of regular cars out there: civics, integras, mustangs, vettes, you name it.
TJDukit
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Stop it.
sixstringsteve
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it's already happened in the future Brian. Now we're just waiting to see the day we both get one. Resistance is futile.
sixstringsteve
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TJDukit
I.Y.A.A.Y.A.S.
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- Clearfield
Yeah but I can't get money for the Jeep let alone another car. Although the gas savings would be awesome.
- Location
- Never Far From Nowhere
Correct.
- Location
- The Land Northward (Bountiful), Utah
I might buy this FC...
http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/700479?ad_cid=6
seriously... seriously... seriously
dang you jerks.
I'm crying right now. Somebody buy my V8 Wrangler...
I just went out and did a burn out behind the mini-mall around the corner to try to talk myself out of selling it and buying something else.
http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/700479?ad_cid=6
seriously... seriously... seriously
dang you jerks.
I'm crying right now. Somebody buy my V8 Wrangler...
I just went out and did a burn out behind the mini-mall around the corner to try to talk myself out of selling it and buying something else.
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You guys crack me up! I went to a wide open Wednesday at MMP last year in my TSX and had an absolute blast and on the drive home was making plans to beg my wife to let me make some mods to it. I got home, saw my jeep in the garage and was over it. This is one aspect of my life that I seem to be able to control and it's so weird.
That's the time that my bro-in-law drove his CTS-V wagon out here from TX (20 hours) and it was awesome. Myself and my buddy in a VR6 Jetta both got up to 85 on one of the straight portions and he got up to 110 in the Caddy. That thing is the craziest vehicle I've ever driven.
That's the time that my bro-in-law drove his CTS-V wagon out here from TX (20 hours) and it was awesome. Myself and my buddy in a VR6 Jetta both got up to 85 on one of the straight portions and he got up to 110 in the Caddy. That thing is the craziest vehicle I've ever driven.
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- Never Far From Nowhere
Only 85 in the VR6? I had my stock '98 Jetta VR6 up to 125. That thing had great acceleration for its size.
TJDukit
I.Y.A.A.Y.A.S.
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- Clearfield
I told my wife on Steve. Now there's no way it's happening.
Yeah, I believe it was on the western half of the track but I can't guarantee that. They don't open up the whole track so there's not a ton of room to run. If you were getting to 125 it was definitely a different spot cause we were pushing our cars pretty hard to even get 85.
I like the motor in his car, it's like the same HP numbers as my 4 cylinder Acura but they're like exact opposites power-band wise.
I like the motor in his car, it's like the same HP numbers as my 4 cylinder Acura but they're like exact opposites power-band wise.
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Ah, we're talking the track. Thats different. I though you were talking straight sections of the road on your way back from Texas...
Haha yeah. Unfortunately I've only had my car to just over triple digits on the street cause my wife always says "Nathan!"
TJDukit
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- Clearfield
Just saw that on Pirate. seems like it could be a fun little car.
sixstringsteve
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Those are fantastic cars. What year is yours? That would be a ball in autocross, and it would be fun on the track too. With how close you are, I can't believe you haven't been out there yet. MMP is one of the top tracks in the US.