snccoulter
www.coulters-inc.com
When i get back from my deployment training i will be heading out there with a sledge to remove the crap if it is not gone already.
waynes world & snakes
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GOAT
Back from the beyond
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- Roanoke, VA
where are you going to put it?
snccoulter
www.coulters-inc.com
Land fill most likely
So you are pro making hard trails easy by way of stacking rocks? Then why not go drive AF Canyon?
utah340six
Registered User
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- west jordan Utah
some one knows who did it,
as you said they took the stacked rocks and made them unusable.
why not just takem down the trail????/
and dump them in the ravine
how about arepair and clean up day.
block off by passes put rocks back in trail
make it hard again.
is this not a 4x4 trail.
as you said they took the stacked rocks and made them unusable.
why not just takem down the trail????/
and dump them in the ravine
how about arepair and clean up day.
block off by passes put rocks back in trail
make it hard again.
is this not a 4x4 trail.
How many times have you been there? three? None of the rocks that were used to stack were challenging for a 2wd pick up. If you were to dump a pile of rocks in a wash they would cause massive erosion when the next run off had to work around them. There is also an endless supply of these rocks in the area, so getting rid of them all would be impractical. I haven't seen this thing yet but I like the idea of sending a message to rock stackers.
As for blocking bypasses, search the forum a bit and you'll find a list of threads that detail (repeatedly) what should be done and why it hasn't been done yet.
As for blocking bypasses, search the forum a bit and you'll find a list of threads that detail (repeatedly) what should be done and why it hasn't been done yet.
Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
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- far enough away
Sure, you want to load rocks and wheel a rock-loaded truck out of WW, cool with me. 
Like I said, leaving stacked rocks is gay.
I think whoever did that should be applauded, not horse-whipped. Horse-whip the outstanding bastards that take bypasses, and leave trash and busted parts. Horse-whip all the lazy bastards that don't do any trail work.
Like I said, leaving stacked rocks is gay.
I think whoever did that should be applauded, not horse-whipped. Horse-whip the outstanding bastards that take bypasses, and leave trash and busted parts. Horse-whip all the lazy bastards that don't do any trail work.
snccoulter
www.coulters-inc.com
I have been out there and have even lost my DL on Constrictor several thmes but it did not stack rocks. I have never tried WW just because I knew i would not make it but did not stack rocks
Now if you were to say a group of people went out to prevent the stacking of rock by locking them into concrete so be it. It is still miss use of the land and the land will eventually be taken away from us. no one should be DUMPING anything out there even if the individual thinks they are helping. anything dumped on the trail or in a ravine will cause erosion.
the concrete would not go in to a creek bed or even stay in the the local area it would go into a proper landfill. The concrete will do nothing as you said there are too many rocks to stop stacking they are everywhere out there. shoot even the little rock garden in rattlesnake is filled up compared to last year
Now if you were to say a group of people went out to prevent the stacking of rock by locking them into concrete so be it. It is still miss use of the land and the land will eventually be taken away from us. no one should be DUMPING anything out there even if the individual thinks they are helping. anything dumped on the trail or in a ravine will cause erosion.
the concrete would not go in to a creek bed or even stay in the the local area it would go into a proper landfill. The concrete will do nothing as you said there are too many rocks to stop stacking they are everywhere out there. shoot even the little rock garden in rattlesnake is filled up compared to last year
The same reasons should be applied to not poring concrete out there. The FS has not given us the go ahead or it is private land and we can be shut down at any time.
snccoulter
www.coulters-inc.com
Pardon me when i say FS i mean BLM. I was corrected on anouther forum it all equals out to a government agency tasked to manage public lands
Skylinerider
Wandering the desert
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- Ephraim
I agree that rock stacking is lame, especially on this section that is there to be difficult, but it is even more lame to take concrete out there and do this. It is nothing more than trash IMO, and harder to remove than beer cans. People will always stack rocks, it is the nature of the hobby, and people will always remove them. Cementing a few rocks in isn't going to stop it.
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Tacoma
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Wow. It amazes me that everyone's up in arms about what should probably be looked at as an improvement to the trail, by making it harder to keep those who shouldn't be there OUT.
Does anyone really think it's going to get that trail closed? No, it won't. All the bypasses and the broken trees from retards driving around the waterfall will though. All the trash and broken parts people leave will. Worse than that, the APATHY will. How many people from RME showed up to NPLD this past September? About 20. God bless every one of them, heck, Cody showed up in a CAR. How many people here use that trail? Probably a hell of a lot more than that, ya think?
And yet we're going to sit and ***** about a solution, flawed though it may be. The BLM has verbally stated a lack of interest in this trail. They are aware of it, aware of RME/U4's stewardship of the trail, and pleased with it's ecologically minimal footprint, being located in a wash. The owners of the private property that it crosses have so far expressed no concern whatsoever, though looking at all the broken glass, trash, and broken trees might change that.
Hopefully the Mystery Men will attend to the bypass at Constrictor next.
Does anyone really think it's going to get that trail closed? No, it won't. All the bypasses and the broken trees from retards driving around the waterfall will though. All the trash and broken parts people leave will. Worse than that, the APATHY will. How many people from RME showed up to NPLD this past September? About 20. God bless every one of them, heck, Cody showed up in a CAR. How many people here use that trail? Probably a hell of a lot more than that, ya think?
And yet we're going to sit and ***** about a solution, flawed though it may be. The BLM has verbally stated a lack of interest in this trail. They are aware of it, aware of RME/U4's stewardship of the trail, and pleased with it's ecologically minimal footprint, being located in a wash. The owners of the private property that it crosses have so far expressed no concern whatsoever, though looking at all the broken glass, trash, and broken trees might change that.
Hopefully the Mystery Men will attend to the bypass at Constrictor next.
Do you seriously think that someone would haul wet concrete all the way into WW just to dump it.
Tacoma
Et incurventur ante non
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- far enough away
well, someone suggested wheeling it out in the back of a truck, so maybe someone else was dusted enough to bring it UP
kind of retarded, but hey, it's there now.
kind of retarded, but hey, it's there now.
rock4fun
Active Member
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- springville ut
I don't think any one should use concrete to modify any trails.I think that if you can make it over stuff without stacking cool that means that you spent the time money and alot of weekends to get you're rig that way.On the other hand we all had to start somewhere and every one has the right to try whatever they want. so if they need to stack rocks help them. If you don't want them there on you're turn then move them.We are all out there for the same reasons to have fun.So lets get out there support each other and have a good time
Tacoma
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**** that.
You stack a rock to get up, YOU move it when you're done.
You stack a rock to get up, YOU move it when you're done.
Kiel
Formerly WJ ZUK
This is why trails have ratings. Peoples own expiriences and rigs can tell them if they can make it or not. This is not a through trail, this is a side obstacle that if you dont make you can go down 100 yards and around on the road. Do you not get pissed when someone is doing 40 mph in the fast lane on the highway? Same thing. Why do people go to moab to run a 4+ or 5 rated trail? Because its the challege, and the rush you get and the people your with. If you got there and found out prichett or area bfe was now a paved road and suburu rated so everyone could hold hands while they wheel you would be pissed. There is a lot of 3 rated and down trails and minimal 4+ and up lets keep those limited trails the way they are
Cherokeester
Registered User
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- Wellsville Utah
Concrete dumped in the middle of no-where is just trash and should be cleaned up regardless of where it is or perceived function. Let's get out there and clean up the place.
Pike2350
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- Salt Lake City
If the cement was used to "lock" rocks that are used for stacking...someone has too much time on there hands. While the intent may be good, it is abuse of the land, and just plain trash dumping.
Think about it...what if this said individual(s) had taken up a piece of junk car and sat it on top of the rocks....why would that be any different? Dumping trash is dumping trash....cement, parts, cans, garbage..whatever it may be. The cement could be replaced with a number of other things that people would be pissed about.
Dumping on the trail, regardless of purpose is stupid. While I don't condone or agree with stacking rocks, it doesn't give someone the right to do something equally as stupid. It's would be like environazis cutting down trees to keep loggers from using them.....very counterproductive.
Think about it...what if this said individual(s) had taken up a piece of junk car and sat it on top of the rocks....why would that be any different? Dumping trash is dumping trash....cement, parts, cans, garbage..whatever it may be. The cement could be replaced with a number of other things that people would be pissed about.
Dumping on the trail, regardless of purpose is stupid. While I don't condone or agree with stacking rocks, it doesn't give someone the right to do something equally as stupid. It's would be like environazis cutting down trees to keep loggers from using them.....very counterproductive.
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