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If you can find the lake, you can find the mine, it's HUGE. It used to be open a few years ago....last time I was there it was filled in. Easy hike too...start at Brighton, takes 1/2 hour. (2 hours for Kurt) hehehehe EZ

No, the Solitude Tunnel is elsewhere....yeah I wouldn't mind hiking up there. When? You need to load up on carbo's and jolt or somethin....my grandma hikes faster than you:-) EZ

That is some smart thinking there Cory. However.... Consider the following. We need to pick our battles wisely. If we want to fight to reopen certain jeep roads in the Cottonwoods, we need to choose the correct ones. I suggest starting with the ones that the county has already...

I'm telling you Coreshot.....there are lost causes and then there are lost causes. Many of these old "roads" (I use that term loosely) have been 90% reclaimed by mother nature. You gotta realize that Big and Little Cottonwood are looked at by most everyone as icons by the greenie...

Oh yeah....that's a good one, didn't think of it 'cause I don't run em..... Can you add anything else to my list? EZ

Why do you bother posting, all you gotta do is call me, you know I have all the answers. :) I have driven Griz Gulch Road in my old rodeo. Drove up to the Emma Mine and the Flagstaff as well. Michigan Utah connected with the Solitude Tunnel, not Woodlawn. The trouble with driving that...

Sorry Maynard. Stop smoking that stuff.......none of these trails will ever be open again, you'd better forget it. Cardiff pass right now on the Alta side has a road that goes within 1/4 mile if the pass (still driveable) but the last 1/4 is steep as hell and there never was a road to it...

Okay guys, let's have you top ten list: What are your ten most common or most anticipated vehicle failures while off roading? They can be things you have experienced, things seen on the trail, or things your buddies have experienced. Something as stupid as a tire carrier falling off your rig...

Because anyone that dies as stupidly as that must be drinking. Besides it's a scapegoat. EZ

I looked on MORE's site and didn't see any, but that sounds like the way to go if they are reasonably priced. EZ

That's what I was thinking, besides how do you build the vertical component? I mean the "pile" would have to be 50 feet high to compare with many of the courses they have been using. So are they going to concrete in all the rocks? Bring in 200 ton slabs of sandstone? I hope they are looking...

Holy cow!! That reminds me, have you ever heard "Tow Yard Complaint.mp3" Can anyone host a 268KB mp3 file? It would SOOOOOO go along with Kris K's response..... EZ

Yeah.......forget about it and move on. Why would a Ford dealer know of all the Jeep package options, trim levels, etc.? I won't even look at ad's from ANY dealership on used cars...I'll only buy from private owners.

OK I don't get it .........how exactly are they going to build "a pile of rocks" ? EZ

Cory, Aren't YJ shackle hangers welded on? I think the MORE shackle hangers are for CJ's that bolt on, aren't they? As for a repair I'd say just weld it back on and add some material to beef it up a little. Yours isn't the first one like that I've seen BTW. This may be a good time to...

SACRILEGE!!!!!! When did you do that? BTW what is the width difference toy vs. 8.25" ? (I assume it was an 8.25 not a D35). EZ

Was Moffit Pass one of the routes down into S&M ? Can you get from Gold Hill Pass directly to Whitney Res? EZ

Hey thanx for the suggestions, keep em coming! It's good to know what people like. I've got a lot of different ideas for upcoming runs. Some of us still want to have a "trophy challenge" type event (big on navigation and GPS, wheeling skills, teamwork, etc.) but I guess all of us are afraid...

Jeff and Iceaxe, PM me your phone numbers please. (And real name?) EZ

Hello all..... Just brainstorming ahead here thru the next year or so. Traditionally, the U4 holds a spring and fall trail run (normally free/minimal cost). The winter and summer conventions usually are "events", include food, and/or are more involved than simple trail rides. The past 3...