Stacey February 26 at 9:50pm
FYI, I am metting with the County attorney's office first thing Monday morning to bring charges against you for theft.
Stephen CrabtreeFebruary 26 at 9:52pm Report
Go ahead Stacey you will lose you have no proof I did not do anything wrong but have more expenses than income
StaceyFebruary 26 at 9:54pm
The expenses mean nothing other than you are incompitent. You sold your gig as a land use fundraiser yet did not forward the money. That is stealing.
Stacey February 26 at 9:55pm
I suggest you take the money you missused and buy yourself a good attorney.
Stephen CrabtreeFebruary 26 at 9:56pm Report
You dont appreciate a damn thing of what I have done and you dont know the facts only what you hear ! I have given over $10,000 dollars to U4 the past 4 years from my events that I have worked with and nobody cares but I can prove this . You are getting on the wrong band wagon because I have only been the subject to people not supporting the event like last year nothing else!!!!!
Stacey February 26 at 9:56pm
You had a raffle and kept the money. I don't care about the rest of your gig. Money I paid was not yours to keep.
Stacey February 26 at 9:59pm
The only facts from you are what you have publicly stated. You spent more than you took in, not mine or anyone elses problem. The fact is, no matter how much you may have raised for U4 over the last 10 years, which I do not believe, you stole from them, me and many others this year.
Stacey February 26 at 10:00pm
If the information is incorrect then you would have corrected it instead of acting in the manner of someone guilty.
Stephen CrabtreeFebruary 26 at 10:02pm
It was not my intention to have more bills than income !!!!!!! Why would I intentionaly make this happen I wouldnt but nothing I can say is going to be listened too !!!!!
StaceyFebruary 26 at 10:03pm
The thing is, it does not matter how much your bills are, you made promisses and must follow the laws.
Stacey 26 at 10:05pm
I was a member of Rockaholics when the event was held. I have every right to see the books on this. Also this event was held under a 501 (3) (c) corporation, I am very familliar with the guidelines and laws regarding a non profit. You are truly in serious jepordy of going to jail.
Stacey February 26 at 10:06pm
The IRS does not care of ones intentions, only the facts.
Stephen CrabtreeFebruary 26 at 10:07pm
Then go ahead talk to the County attorney if you think that an event that is upside down in expenses should do something different what do you want me to do I dont have your money to make up the difference I was only trying to help the cause but came up short Thats all!
Stacey February 26 at 10:08pm
How can you spend money that is not yours. You have yet to pay the BLM and others.
StaceyFebruary 26 at 10:09pm
I really suggest you seek legal advice on this. I do not enjoy bringing charges against you.
StaceyFebruary 26 at 10:13pm
Straight from the Rockaholics website. "Proceeds from the $40,000 off road product raffle go to support land use organizations including: Blue Ribbon Coalition, United Four Wheel Drive Association and Utah 4 Wheel Drive Association."
It does not state, if there is anything left over.
Stephen CrabtreeFebruary 26 at 10:14pm
The BLM has not given me a bill !!!!
StaceyFebruary 26 at 10:21pm
Why so silent, you have not said anything except you spent all the money.
StaceyFebruary 26 at 10:25pm
Come on Steve, sticking your head in the sand hoping this all goes away is not helping you.
Stephen CrabtreeFebruary 26 at 10:42pm
I cant post anything on RME without every decision I made being torn apart and your right there you havent been there when the events I had something to do with produced $2700 in 2008 $5900 in 2009 $800 in 2010 because of us sending direct checks to multiple causes and 89 New Members in 2011 totaling over $10,000 in donations to U4 none of this matters!!!!!
StaceyFebruary 27 at 11:11am
I made 2 posts on RME, only after reading your posts which said in essence, "tuff shit people, I spent the money". I do not participate in extreme rock crawling except with my Jeepster friends, you guys drive ugly shit
Hope you guys can take a joke.....
You say you have donated all this money to various organizations yet have never produced proof of what you raised. There needs to be accountability. It amazes me that you can not see this. Sorry but even if you had not had multiple questionable dealings - because you raised the money thru a non profit organization and because you held multiple raffles designated for land use, you need to account for every penny you raised. Had you done these rallies as Steve Crabtree and had not held any raffles then you could tell everyone to kiss your ass, you would not owe anyone any acountability or explanation.
